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Really? Don't all teams want to win? Don't riders get paid by the point? I think youve spent too long listening to Messrs Brown and Lanning!

Was impressive when guesting for us at Plymouth.

Not irrelevant for our two final meetings.

I wondered about him remaining on 6.00 but didn't Birminghams Poles, also assessed as 6.00, get "real" averages after six meetings? Last night was Ivacic's sixth meeting and he'll have a average of less than 4.00 so would expect him to be reserve for our meeting at Armadale.

Last night was Ivacic's sixth meeting and he'll have a average of less than 4.00 so would expect him to be reserve for our meeting at Armadale.

Tougher than riding at two?

June 7 when Redcars NDL meeting v Belle Vue blocked off Glasgow from restaging tier rained off meeting with the senior Redcar side. Doubtlessly others. Will Monarchs travel to Scunthorpe for the BSN Semi second leg on Sept 13, the same night as they have an NDL double header at Armadale or does seniority apply to this too?

Seniority should only be applied to the first running of the fixture, with any restagings taking place on an alternative race night and the Championship is surely senior to the NDL. Right now the NDL tail is wagging the Championship dog.

Only if teams agree to use their alternative race nights when racing fellow Friday nighters AND NDL fixtures are staged on their own separate nights and don't block Championship meetings.

Maciej Jankowski's controversial elimination from the Cardiff GP semi final reminds me of the 1963 PLRC at Belle Vue When five riders tied on nine points but only two places in the final remained open to them. What was the first decision to split them - heat wins? Fastest times? Whatever it was it provoked a sit down strike and ultimately a five man run off was ordered. May be this should have been done at Cardiff.

Unless he scores far better against Redcar, he'll be at reserve for our meeting at Armadale on Sept 6.

Might be wrong but I've got a hazy recollection of this happening to us before back in the times that Richard Lawson was a Tiger. Anyone remember?

Doesn't he get a real average a few days after completing his sixth meeting so that will be some point in early September by which time we may well still have meetings to race - at Edinburgh perhaps the way things are going ...or not going!

I wondered about that. Hook and Liebmann never dropped below their assessed 4.00 figures though their "actuals" were less. However Birminghams foreigners all got real figures after the prescribed number of meetings.

He has indeed. Looking back, he had to be aTarasenko type signing just to break even. We used 8.00 on him and Garrad, and with Garrad unlikely to score many points, he needed to average 7.50+ just to stay pat. Right now he's on 4,00 and after tonight could end up being a reserve in the next Green Sheets. Ironically Starke is averaging slightly more for Workington. File under " it seemed like a good idea at the time"

Indeed and if he has another poor night tomorrow he'll be at reserve for next Friday

Edinburgh had "Jack Anderson" who was in fact John Gibson of the Edinburgh Evening News. He used the non de plume as he didn't always go to the meetings but constructed reports from a filled in programme.

Seems unlikely as the BSPL stats page for the Tigers updated to include Saturdays results does not include him.

See what you mean. Jack Smith may have been a different case as I dont think he had a 2023 Championship average.

Don't think it works that way as guest appearances dont count in the averages. They didn't for Jack Smith.

Who did your team get and what are your memories of them. Some I remember in https://classicspeedwaymemories.webador.co.uk/august-2024/the-swedish-invasion-of-1967

The point sckocjasid was making was if the ref excluded Baek, Glasgow have 2 more points.

Point of information - if Baek had been excluded in heat 5 instead of Smith , the 3-3 would have become a Glasgow 4-2 so Glasgow would have ONE extra point not two.

What makes you say that?

Seniority is an unnecessay and outdated concept and the NDL tail has to stop wagging the Championship dog. NDL meetings should either be held when the Championship side is riding away or on your alternative race day - you do have one?