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On the thread for the last match lots of Aces fans were bemoaning the guest situation, it didn't matter win or lose. The only difference between the two threads was Lakeside fans were ranting about the FDR system but that seems alright now......Jack.

It's an away fixture and try as we might, like last time we couldn't change it. We did try The Lord Fraud approach but were then docked 3 league points. Face didn't fit it seems.

Wow, unbelievable. The law of averages would have seen him compete on more than one occasion. Fixture planning needs addressing but the problem, like so much else in speedway is whilst it suits some clubs nothing will change. Thats what turns fans off as it's bad enough if fate dictates the need for multiple guests, but when it's engineered it becomes very hard to take.

Great result from the Aces but shame about the guests and shame about the need for guests. The two fixtures we ran a Lakeside have been extremely badly placed and I can't help thinking it's planned that way. Fitting 14 fixtures into a 35 week season makes me think it's a actually harder to come up the the dates we've been required to race there. Maybe and infinite number of monkeys for next year instead of the usual one?

I'm hoping Jerran Hart gets a mention. When's his comeback?

Rider control, if it was run like it was in the 70's we'd have to lose Zagar and Coventry would lose Robson.

Not an option for us. Tango man and his cronies would get together and dock us three points. The rest of you can run or not when you fancy or chop and change teams and have guests for whoever etc etc. Bent as........

Richie would never be allowed to ride EDR for the Aces. Another team, maybe?

I don't think Jason is dirty just out of control and not a clever thinker on the bike. He was years ago at the Vue and I'm surprised and disappointed he's not been coached out of this during his years away. The play off semi or final should be good between these two teams. Just hope Scott & the reserves don't have stinkers again. Felt for Stefan when his bike went pop. Hans is a problem for The Bees as whereas Scott's was a blip Hans is regular. I think that will intimately cost them. Correct, whenever these back room deals go on between the in crowd and we end up getting shafted, I'm sore. Bent the lot of it but whilst some fans are happy who cares. I'm alright Jack!

I've given up. Fancy though it's alway great when we're not looking. Bit of BS I think but if the home fans like it then hey ho.

Trouble is the BSPA or certain members DO know what's going on but if your not in the loop you're gonna get shafted. The EDF is the perfect example. They wanted lads geographically placed to join teams to keep travelling cost down. Don't forget this whole process was brought in to save money. It's then obvious that this didn't suit some so the last to first system was used. This is pointless in speedway as teams can and do change so much from season to season finishing last has little to no bearing on the following year. So, ok they have a system in place but then again it didn't suit some so another convoluted system comes into play for the next season. We also had it where Steve was made the highest graded rider on the list that then affected your second pick place. Fair enough but then only weeks later this system is dispensed for another. I don't even know why I'm going into all this as we all know it's bent, obviously bent and that's why we are pushing not just losing but pushing our hardcore fans away from the sport.

I think it's fair to say the Coventry are currently in the I'm alright Jack phase.

The sport's bent - I'm alright Jack. The sport's bent - I'm alright Jack. The sport's bent - I'm alright Jack. The sport's bent - I'm alright Jack. I'm not alright, I'm near the bottom of the table - The sport's bent. The sport's bent - I'm alright Jack. The sport's bent - I'm alright Jack.

BNP! Not called for. Goodbye

I think it's a Belle Vue thing, we've always been the same.

Matej Zagar Farewell meeting. I wonder if they will have a souvenir programme.

Without ploughing through the world fixtures I'm guessing AM or PK are riding elsewhere, with a federation we have an agreement with. I refuse to believe they have a facility when two riders can't be arsed.

I'm confused now. In this weeks Star under the headline Robins switch, it states "With PK's agreement now at an end" and on the BSPA website under declarations it has PK as an outgoing rider and not in the team but AM at 1.

I'm amazed that Coventrys losses can be dismissed due to the fact they will likely make the play offs. So if this happens again to a non play off team, what then? Best to discuss it now and hopefully stop this kind of thing happening again,again.

I'm the same. I bumped into him six years ago at Buxton where he was their reserve. He started spouting on about being the best rider in the Premier League, British number two, qualifying for the Cardiff GP and becoming an Elite League heat leader. Arrogant get!

Should opened on June 1st when the weathers better.

We offered several dates but two were refused as other teams didn't want to move and the offer of a Monday with a likely Sky broadcast never got off the table. Gov!

I'm in total agreement with that, if fact I would,like the Aces management, have liked to have ridden at Lakeside without four of our team missing. We knew we had a better chance of winning with horses for courses but for the good of the sport we asked if it could be rearranged. We were refused.

Arya, it's not rubbish or even my opinion it's fact as caught on film. Dispicable. The "he does it govnor so I thought I would" augment doesnt wash with me I'm afraid.

I'll never forget at the Aces v Poole match when Middleditch was interviewed following the cancellation after heat 10. He said when riders like NKI are coming off that tells you something it is correct to call it off. NKI came off yet Middleditch happily sent out his riders AFTER this, knowing the track was dangerous. Utter utter scumbag.