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It’s the first time in over twenty years that Belle Vue have finished with two riders over eight.

Henka Gustafsson. Average reassessed up after we signed him. Jason Lyons. Average increased due to rule change after we signed him. Tai Woffinden. Quoted 8 when we mentioned he’d been in touch looking for a UK return. Signed on 7.03 elsewhere. Matej Zagar. Rules changed during contract negotiations. To to name a few quickly off the top of my head.

You assume wrong. Riders starting averages alter depending on the team they sign for.

I do find Poole fans attitude to cheating odd, it just doesn’t phase you lot one bit. If ever I want to feel especially good about myself, I’ll either do some charity work or read a Poole thread for a bit.

Incorrect.

He signed for the Lions three weeks before the 8 point rule came in. ??????

Tbh you dont know if they were average dropping until the end of the following season when they have a new average with their parent club. Its easy to think he dropped his form on purpose especially as he rode in so few meetings and throwing points away to ensure that Poole won at Lynn had a big impact on his figure. Pooles propensity for cheating also puts doubts in the mind that may not be there if another team was involved. Well watch the form of the worlds No10 with interest.

With only 15 to 17 weeks before teams take to the track its utterly concerning.

That was a Stevebrum post from back when Wolves signed Tai to win the league. It interesting to compare to current postings.

Most people overlooked him due to his 6.34 converted average. Once one/some club got wind that he could be signed on 4.53 they snapped him up. If there was a live updated list of available riders with their effective average then there would probably be more of a bun fight when recruiting team members. Such a transparent and simple system wouldnt be adopted by the current set up in the UK due to the old boys network favouring certain clubs.

Its definitely easier for teams such as Poole to sign ringers compared to say Belle Vue due to the nature of the decision makers. Rules are created or altered willy nilly to impede some whilst favouring others. Though Swindon and Wolves also had two riders over 8 as they have done before, its the first time in over twenty years that The Aces have been in that position and we suddenly get a ruling preventing us from keeping hold of them. Their not even subtle about it anymore. Trouble is they are throwing or have thrown the baby out with the bath water and look where its got us. Very sad.

Could you donate a pound to SRBF every time you say youre going to leave it there?

So Wolves suffered a whole season yet it would be 'fair' to have to have his REAL average altered because it isn't fair to other teams??? Not fair at all. Wolves had to suffer 2 seasons because the world champion rode poor and achieved a poor average because of it. So its only fitting the team who suffered that year was able to take advantage of it.

It gets on my nerves when Gavan argues with Stevebrum. It gets on my nerves when Fred Flange argues with Stevebrum. It gets on my nerves when Starman argues with Stevebrum. It gets on my nerves when Matt Ford Fan argues with Stevebrum. It gets on my nerves.............

Surely it was a green helmet. Lol.

If you have 4 & 5 point riders at reserve with the top rider taking one of the lower reserves rides you get, if they rider to their average 9.25 (6.25 + 3) If you have 2 & 7 point riders at reserve with the top rider taking one of the lower reserves rides you get, if they rider to their average 10.25 (8.75+ 1.50) I dont think clubs would spend 9 points at reserve but whatever the figures the maths show a two pointer is the way to go.

I remember that last time we did grading, Lindback (Poole) was low and Harris (Coventry) was high, even though they were the same. Any system we adopt will not work satisfactorily as some of the people involved are bent. £££££ makes points, or hollow championships.

There has to be a dark art to averages as it not only allows the in crowd to gain an advantage but it can stop a team outside the inner circle from potentially winning. Current system will stay whilst UK speedway continues its demise.

Waiting till December. Is he softening in his old age?

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Who are the 7 GP riders?

He completed 11. More than 9 but still not many out of 28! Shame rolling averages ended but Im sure they served their purpose (for some) when they were in place.

Didnt Holder only complete 9 league meetings for the stars, out of 28? If he aint reassessed then its bent. Going off previous, he wont be reassessed. If a sport is bent, why bother?

Was this made public prior to the rewrite via social media or in the press?

Whatever the reasons, good or bad about this decision, once again its the timing that stinks and just howls of petty self interest. When the Agm decisions where announced, specifically the 1 over 8 why wasnt the GP 9 point rule announced at the same time? There had been lots of tweets from the top lads saying they werent interested in a UK ride or they had signed up for foreign leagues with the spectre of the Polish ruling hanging over them, so why would you give it any thought. Then Zagar tweets about wanting to return. Think where he was likely to go and you get the sole reason for this hasty rewrite