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Whats behind Phil Morris being Team Manager for Brum on wednesday night for the 2nd leg Is this just a one off ? I know Phil sorted out the signing of the Team, but then Graham Drury was announced as Team manager, now after just 1 meeting Phil is back Temporary or what ? i personally dont see the point in having Phil back if its only for a 1 off meeting, either he is Team Manager or he isnt.

Dont be thinking Mike Neale is any sort of mug on a Speedway Track, he can look after himself, he spent a season up at Buxton and that as you will find out isnt the easiest Track to ride.

Guys i hate to P on your Bonfire, but you are an Elitist Club just come down to the NL, you for the most part do not yet have any idea of the strength of the NL, we all understand the Trick Track that is Arlington, we are aware it is a big home advantage, but also it puts your riders at a disadvantage when they ride away, Im loving your enthusiasm, and Yes its great to have Eastbourne in the NL, also you must be aware that Mason and Warwick are pretty predominantly home scorers, I just dont see where you are going to get your points from away from home. I wasnt going to say about my Teams reserves but seeing as philipsr mentioned it, Neale and Perks dropped 2 points in 8 rides last week, so Im looking forwards to seeing Dugard and Woods scoring two maximums in there first meeting. I dont for one minute expect Neale and Perks to keep up that level week in week out, but they have set the bar high, and if they can do it once then they can do it again. Looking at the fixture lists they should both still be at reserve when you visit us in less than a months time April 22nd, but unless we have a rain off, it looks like at least one of Neale or Perks wont be at reserve when we are due at Eastbourne on May 24th, Im unsure how soon after the 4th meeting the new averages come into effect, the meeting at Arlington is the 5th Cradley meeting. Anyways guys the Eastbourne discussion pages have kept the Forum lively over the past few months, and i wish you good luck for the season.

Its almost time for the 2nd leg of the TT Challenge for the Dan McCormick Memorial Trophy, how do you guys see this panning out? after last weeks Ommering of Brum. I see Phil Morris is the Team Manager of Brum for this meeting, is this a temporary thing or an occasional move ?. Since last weeks meeting, Brums No1 Adam Ellis has had a very poor few days in the meetings he has competed in at Ipswich and Lakeside, he took a fall at Ipswich in the Billy Sanders meeting and was feeling the worse for wear at Lakeside. He needs to quickly rediscover some form otherwise it will prove impossible for The Brummies to be competitive on Wednesday, remember they are a Top heavy Team, and this relies on Adam and Captain Tom Pom Perry getting double figures in all their meetings, Otherwise Brum simply dont have the strength in depth to cover a loss of form, so can Phil Morris quickly help Adam show some form ?. I have no doubts he will be a help to the more inexperienced members of the Team such as Alex Wilson, Zach Wotsisname, and Harvie Banks. I expect Brum to put up a better showing, but doubt they can turn it around enough to win on the night. The Heathens were simply awesome last week and their wasnt a weak link to be seen in the Team winning 13 of the 15 Heats. Im going to plump for a Home win The Heathens are at home this week lol and admission is £1 less than last week, 49-41 to Cradley.

I have to agree with your comments with regards Marc Owen, i fully expect him to be Eastbournes No1 at the end of the season, providing he stays injury free. Whilst Mason is going backwards I doubt very much that you will see him in the reserve berth even with his poor away form, as for Dugard and Wood being the strongest reserve pair, well soon we will see, as its almost time for the talking to be done on track.

To be honest you would have IMO been better off with Brendon Johnson in the Team rather than David Mason, Im guessing what you saw today was the David Mason that performs at away Tracks, yeah he will improve around Arlington, but his away form for an Heat Leader is aweful.

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Hunty, I like to read your posts especially as a fellow Heathen fan, but in what way do we have the pick of the bunch ? Mildenhall and Kent should be able to compete with us financially, in fact Kent dont have rent to pay, so should be able to sign whoever they want. Brum had 2 new NL riders in Zach and Wilson, Banks has as much NL experience as does our own Luke Harris, Adam Ellis has ridden at Perry Barr before so it isnt new to him, and as for Perry Barr being a tight track thats simply not true, and many describe Perry Barr as having little or no home Track advantage, next week should be closer, but as for Coventry giving us a sterner test i very much doubt it. Tom Perry has often shone for the Heathens in the past, but Tom has gone back a little, and these young Kids, Clegg & Greaves are still progressing, but Tom will still get regular double figures at Perry Barr, and they wont have to meet an on fire Cradley every week which should help.

Whilst i am happy that we won, in some ways Im dissapointed it was by such a large margin, I want the Brummies to survive and getting beat by so many wont have done them any favours in front of a big crowd.

Markyb, Profiles saying they have only recently taken up the Sport ?? surely that is what the NL is all about! or am i missing something?.Two seasons ago Max Clegg and Nathan Greaves were Cradleys reserves now they are senior Heat Leaders, okay the result tonight looked one sided by the scoreline, but its a Challenge meeting, basically to prepare for the League meetings to come, thats why both Teams gave there riders there full programmed rides, The biggest factor in the scores was Adam Ellis only scoring 3 points from his 4 rides, i doubt Adam will have a score like that again at Perry Barr all season, most of the other riders except for Zach scored what was expected.

You can add young Ollie to that list, he seems to pick up an injury most seasons.

Two pretty well balanced teams, and taking it rider against rider Ellis over Clegg, Kirby over Harris, Williamson over Chapman, Mogridge over Banks, Perry and Greaves level, Wotsisname over Neale, and Perks over Wilson which by my reckoning makes it 3 each and one pairing level. I wouldnt really expect the Heathens to use any T/R by the reserves as its only a Challenge, and as there isnt going to be any real home advantage this could go either way, Im pretty sure AE will get a 5 ride maximum, Tom Perry is the enigma which Tom will we get ? Im going to say he will score 11 from 5, Kirby, Wilson, and Chapman 4/5 each, Banks will struggle 1 or 2, and Wotsisname 6/7 add them all up and it will be a pretty close meeting. Cleggy 10/11, Nathan 10/11, Willy 7, Perks 7, Harris 2, Mogridge 5, Neale 4, Thats my neck on the block now lets see someone else come up to be shot down. Whatever happens looking at the forecast it looks like a goer, should be a packed house at the Barr, and hopefully the riders will all stay safe. I took this from the Cradley website, which maybe clarifies some points with regards the Invisible Trophy, "Wednesday’s meeting is the first leg of the Travel Plus Tours Challenge, hosted by the Brummies, with Cradley’s staging of the second leg also at Perry Barr next Wednesday, March 25. The winners will receive the Dan McCormick Memorial Trophy following the sad passing of the charismatic promoter who was with both clubs during a glittering career". So the winners will receive a Trophy, but it will be the late great "Dan McCormick Memorial Trophy" a fitting Memorial for a great man, who had connections with both Teams.

Bet Victor odds for winning the PL 2015. Glasgow Tigers 3 Edinburgh Monarchs 4 Ipswich Witches 6 Peterborough Panthers 6 Somerset Rebels 8 Newcastle Diamonds 12 Scunthorpe Scorpions 12 Workington Comets 12 Sheffield Tigers 14 Berwick Bandits 16 Redcar Bears 18 Rye House Rockets 20 Plymouth Devils 25 EACH-WAY TERMS: 1/ 2 1/3 looks to me as if they have got it pretty much spot on, as Teams are at the moment, any one of the First 5 Teams could win the League, dependent on luck and Injuries.

I notice the Bookies have you down as 25/1 to win the League, or in other words the Team least likely to win the League so therefore the weakest Team, as we all know its not often the Bookies get it wrong, so it seems again the management have got the Team building badly wrong yet again.

Peterborough won't touch Ellis if they have any sense, Most of Peterborough's home fixtures are Friday night's which is also Lakeside's race night who Adam is owned by and rides for in the EL he'd never be at Peterborough So looking at 19.9.1.2 the moment Adam Ellis signs for a PL Team he would become ineligible to ride for Brum. I would imagine Adam intends to ride for Lakeside as he is there asset, and to complete a full season with Brum in the NL, he will do guest bookings for various PL Teams, and Cherry pick these dependent on what they offer, and how well he rides a particular Track. Thats my take on the Adam Ellis situation at Birmingham, why is that my belief ? I can recall his dad being particuarly dissapointed that Adam Ellis could not compete in the NL in 2014 as he felt that another season in the NL would have been beneficial to Adam Ellis,s career at that time, i have not read anywhere that his opinion has changed and Adam wants another full NL season, which will rule out signing permanently for a PL Team, indeed why should he when he can Cherry pick where and when he wants to take guest PL bookings, and still ride NL.

Just checked out the Cradley website http://www.cradleyheathens.co/homepage and it definately says the 1st home meeting is for The Travel Plus Invisible Trophy.

I to am not sure if its for the Dan McCormack Memorial Cup or for the Travel Plus Invisible Trophy, hopefully it will be for the former at least then the Cup will be visible and have some meaning.

you tell em gal.

Maybe this is an area (Social Networking) That Tony Mole and Graham Drury are not savvy enough about, maybe they need to have this pointed out to them that these pages are way out of date and either need updating or discontinued, as jubileeclip has pointed out it can be a little off putting to potential fans and sponsors alike. The vast majority of promoters underestimate the power of Social Media, in particular Facebook and Twitter, the potential that they have to reach the younger element of potential fans is therefore lost, both Tony and Graham are of a generation that are NOT computer savvy, and therefore regard it as something that has to be put up with, and NOT used to there advantage. They can reach more potential customers with 10 minutes spent on either of these two media networks, than any amount of press releases. This is an area that Nigel Pearson excels at, and love him or hate him he cannot be criticised for how he uses it, and many more speedway Teams could do worse than ask him for advice and guidance on this, though he supposedly doesnt like FB he has an account, he realises that though he may not like it, it still serves a very useful purpose.

Well i doubt you will see the super tuned engines in the Nl, then for the most part you wont see the sponsored Vans, you wont see riders turn up for just another pay night, without putting in the associated effort, you wont see most of the riders packed up and away without chatting to fans, you wont see riders doing wheelies at the back, and granted you wont see Elite riders skills. What you will see is, young guys giving 100%+ mostly on limited budgets, you will see some young riders having to be back at school the next day having to ride home through the night, you will see some in old clapped out vans, you wont see riders giving up without trying, you will see occasionally riders falling on every lap but still get up and give it a go for an odd point or sometimes less, you will see riders Happy to stay behind for a chat (some are to young to drink), and above all else you will see young British riders proud to wear your Teams colours. Not all of them will make the grade, but i can assure you it wont be for the want of trying, and in time you will learn to ride every race with them, and suffer every fall as they make a mistake or try to hard, but you will have your OWN Team and your OWN riders just like it used to be years ago. No its not GP racing or EL racing, but in its way its just as enjoyable and in lots of ways even more so, to see a young rider start out as a 3 point reserve in the NL then in 2 or 3 years that same rider is racing in the PL and EL as a draft rider.

Hmmm, i would think its far easier to promote a Team thats succesful ON Track than trying to promote from the bottom up, dont get me wrong i take your point but in Joe Mclaughlin (you have one of the best) you have a good commercial manager, and if Birmingham as the 2nd city dont support Speedway in enough numbers to sustain NL racing then you dont deserve Speedway. As for promoters saying what the attendances are, you have more chance of being struck by lightening. If Buxton could average 200 fans per meeting they would win any League on a % increase Table as this would probably be an 125% increase or something of that ilk. From what i have seen at attending Brum Speedway they need to target schools in the area, forgive me for saying so but i am coming 63 and appeared to be one of the youngest at the meetings i attended. You have a local guy as Captain he is very good at PR i would suggest ask him to visit 1 local School per week, and take his bikes with him get him to practice a few Doughnuts at the Schools (H&S permitting) and give out a few hundred even up to a 1000 free Tickets for the following Brummie meeting, we all know this is the age where the bug usually bites, Compare Cradley fans with Brummie fans (age wise) you will often see 3 generations of a family at a Cradley meeting, whereas with Brummies its often 1 man and his Zimmerframe. Am i correct in thinking UK martin that you were one of the stay aways, will you be attending the born again Brummies ?. I appologise if i am mixing you up with another regular poster on here.

So i can imagine The Wolf Cubs may well have a couple of Cradley & Birmingham riders turning out for them to boost the gate at Monmore.

Brummie Kev, looking at your signature, is that how you expect your team to line up, or is it as the signings were announced ?. Thinking back to Drury & Moles past experience at CL level Speedway with Mildenhall, and if i remember they always had a pretty strong Team. I expect Zach to start as reserve as he will probably be the stronger of the 3, and therefore at reserve he will be able to take extra rides if needed. I dont for one minute believe The Brummies will be wooden spoon contenders, but any Team picking up an unfortunate injury could leave the most well laid of plans in tatters. BDJ is the rider thats been left on the sidelines by everyone and is the obvious cover should a Team pick up an injury, but Im sure there are rabbits to be found out there should there be a need. This will be the most competitive NL for several seasons and can only be good for the League, hopefully everyone steers clear of serious injury and we see some more competitive and fair racing. Bring it on, the season is upon us lets hope the weather stays fair and we avoid the usual back end log jam of fixtures.

The best advert Plymouth could get is by tracking a decent Team, they have not done this since they have been in the PL, and this years Team looks No better, I have nothing against young Chapman but the only way he is going to score any points is if another rider fails to finish, there are lots of young riders out there better than Chapman, or is it that they dont want to travel down to Plymouth ?.

No need Pete, the on Track results and off Track antics will No doubt do that soon enough.