Sir Sidney

I understand now. That makes perfect sense

I understand that, because you changed work shifts and so have a direct loss that you won't recoup.

I can never follow that logic I'm afraid. You will save £70 tomorrow. Why not just put that aside for the new date?

Interesting to note that one promotion that are doing that is Isle of Wight. They certainly do 1, 2, 4 and 5 (and much more besides) and I am sure Barry and Martin would be quite happy to do 3. Any yet they have opted to operate outside the BSPA and league structure.

https://www.better.org.uk/leisure-centre/manchester/belle-vue-sports-village/facilities It appears that if you want to book the sports pitches , or the hospitality areas , you have to book via Better Leisure. That would tend to suggest that Belle Vue speedway does not control the stadium other than on its own event days

Whether today's race was much more exciting than speedway is a matter of preference. Other than a bit of 'first bend bunching' and a contrived finish I thought it was run of the mill

We'll have to ask Spedeworth to convert from tarmac to shale then! I'll ask Santa

Never a dull moment with Neil around. Who can forget him riding up the front of Barry Crowson, or the time he parked his bike across the start line. A better rider with more potential than his scores would indicate

I can't see these two in the list above: Aldershot raceway - although not sure if there is room inside the stock car track for a speedway track Smallfield raceway - near Gatwick airport, right next to M23

I hope the NDL has a very strong year, with riders who are of the right ability. The BSPL has created an issue by weakening the league this season - not entirely sure how they rectify that for next season. With regards to IOW - did you go to any of the meetings? I did, and they were far from being 'a bit rubbish' as you suggest.

Very true. I have friends who are less than 10 miles away from Belle Vue and are motorsport fans. They had no idea there was speedway at Belke Vue. I took them along and now they go - not every week, but more than they would have done.

I would imagine the vast majority of residents in Birmingham and the surrounding catchment area have no idea that it exists

I'll be interested to see the detail on number 8s. Will it consist of a designated set of riders (almost a shadow RS list) or will clubs have a free hand to choose?

Very difficult to see Batchelor having a worse season than last year, and possibly the rider who may have the biggest potential average gain in the Premiership in 2022. A risk, yes - but not a great risk on that average

I just don't get it John. What is your motive? On the Memories of Rye House Facebook page you make an ambiguous but provocative post, which then sets off a negative chain of events. After that causes an argument you delete all your posts so no one can see the trail, and then you make apologies. You then set up an alternative Facebook group which you call Rye House Speedway- the Fabulous Rockets. Yet on this Forum thread you admit that you haven't been since 1963 and you left because you were bored, and that having posted a link to a picture of a Rye House legend you don't know and don't really care who he is! However, that also means that this Forum thread has been diverted away from the positive news that there is actually a chance Rye House could return. I try not to post negative things in relation to your posts, but boy, you do make it difficult to come to any conclusion other than that you are trying to damage the possible Rye House return.

I agree with that. The question is which organisation has the skills to properly conduct the research and properly interpret it - and then come up with a plan to make a difference.

I think it would be a good idea if some kind of survey could be carried out to see how many people that would attract on a regular basis. For me, that would not be an attractive proposition and I doubt I would go. Solo speedway is the attraction for me but sidecars, quads and flat track would be a complete turn off. I'd also be unlikely to go for a full day. What does attract me is the sort of programme the Isle of Wight put on this year - circa 25 races over a 3 hour period, predominately speedway based - and the British Youth Championship with multiple speedway classes. I may of course be in the minority, and I certainly do fall into the age demographic that's viewed as a problem for the sport.

Unbelievable. If the BBC don't mention speedway people complain. The BBC do report it and they still get criticised! You may not watch the BBC. Millions still do

I went to one of the 3TT meetings and the Nora 500CC British championship. For me, they meet the requirements of 'something for the traditionalists'. My expectations were exceeded by the racing on show. The riders certainly took it seriously and I enjoyed it immensely. When that is combined with all the other races put on in various speedway classes (Pee Wee, 125cc, Women's races, uprights etc) - all wrapped up in a fantastic customer experience and an entertaing show - I thought they were fantastic nights out. I know you are supportive of the IOW City Rebel, but not sure if you were able to get over this year with the travel challenges!

Denigrating the IOW again. What have you got against them? You completely miss the point of how they operate and why they are operating that way this year. Remember, they would have raced in the National League this year had not changes been imposed without consultation, and with no guarantee that the same wouldn't happen in the future. I am a neutral supporter- I don't have a team to follow and so no axe to grind. I want to see British speedway flourish. IOW are putting on serious speedway. I'm not sure what you mean by 'fun speedway. However, they wrap that up in first class customer service and extra fan engagement. Every other club could do the same. There must be tens of thousands of people like me who used to go, but have lost their track. IOW through its social media content attracted me to go, impress me when I attend, and keep me posted. I feel a part of their club. Kings Lynn , or any other club, could do the same, but they don't.

So sorry not to follow your rules. I'll get back in my box

As this is a Belle Vue thread I don't want to take it over with other comments, but I cannot agree with you that the racing at Wimbledon was boring. Like everywhere else it had good and bad meetings. I do agree with your other points. British speedway does need to take a hard look at its self in readiness for next season

The fact is all 3 teams closed as the owners wanted to develop the sites, nothing to do with them being slick tracks. At the point Wimbledon closed the promoters wanted to take them up a division - nothing to do with crowd size and quality of racing and all to do with the owners wanting to knock down the stadium and build housing

Almost certain that, based on current experience, BSPL would put barriers in the way of such events, limiting who could ride.

Thanks for parking advice. I'll aim to arrive in plenty of time to park in the car park and avoid the road parking. Much appreciated