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That was the official reason but I still don't believe it. Plus there was a column in the SS about a month previous saying the rumor mill was already churning that it was going to be called off! I'm a massive fan of the GP's (unlike yourself!) but that one in particular left somewhat of a sour taste. I traveled to Warsaw and although it was annoying and somewaht of an embarassement you could tell it was Rookie errors, stuborn riders and a combination of misfortune that led to its premature ending. Gelsenkirchen... there was something fishy there!

I went to that (non) GP and 8 years on with no explanation still kind of pssed off about it.

Steady is a modern day Neil Evitts. He should get a Dr's note the week before the Rye fixture save himself the petrol money poor fella.

I was always surprised it never took off in Spain either. They like their Motorcycles down there, perfect climate. All arrows pointed to it being a popular - other than no one had any interest hahahaha

Yes, my point exactly! To your second point, yes it would be easier if there were Poles fighting for the world title but with probably 4 young Poles in the series from next season, at least two that speak perfect English and have the major energy drinks sponsors backing them, it could be a good opportunity. Anyway again as I said the Polish thing is just one example. I still say good promotion alone could make a GP work in that area. It's works with Supercross where there are no local riders or Poles/Latinos etc to help sell it.

iris123 -But by the time Adamek fought in Newark he was already a 2 time world champ and having his 37th fight.Hardly an unknown and like you mention Szpilka was fighting for a world title.Not really the unknowns you said in your earlier post Speedway really lacks those ethnic minorities that you mention anyway apart from Poles.No Irish or Italian or German or Latinos in the series to sell tickets They were not widely know to the locals who eventually came to see the fight, they were sold to them is the point I am trying to make. As could Polish riders coming to a ONE OFF WORLD TITLE event. Anyway I'm clearly wrong and we shouldn't bother trying for a GP anywhere else outside the current markets. Well that was my original point was that they dont seem to have tried much on holding a GP on anywhere other than LA. But as you say good to chew the fat get differing opinions

Tomas Adamek as I said above regularly sold out the Prudential Center in Newark & when Artur Szpilka fought Deontay Wilder for the Heavyweight title last year in Brooklyn it was 3/4 Polish fans. (and rather amusing as it was so boisterous you were only allowed to buy 1 beer per person and then they stopped serving before the main event!) They are 2 off the top of my head. The Undercards of fights in NYC are always filled with local guys that are from one of the 'minority communities' Look I'm not saying I have a golden full proof plan. Just saying there has to be opportunities out there to expand the series to new audiences. I'm just going by examples I've witnessed first hand. Is that a bad thing?

You're missing the point it's merely ONE selling point. Yes it's two different sports but the way of attracting fans is still the same. Living here I saw how Heavyweight fighter Tomas Adamek became a big attraction in this area, mainly because he is Polish and despite "the Polish community in the US is also several generations removed from Poland now." as you say. Also as I mentioned earlier, Supercoss isn't exactly a hugely followed sport here but once a year they attract a big crowd. I just personally believe that with the right promotion it could be a success. There are 20.2 million people in the Greater NY area.. With regards to your thoughts on Speedway within Poland, it sells out 3 GPs every year (one in the National Stadium) and the play offs at Torun just sold out in 24 hours. I'm sure Women's Basketball doesn't compete with that,

With regards to the Polish community, it's a selling point which they love over here. 3 polish riders in the series being used to sell it would certainly help.I see it with local boxing shows all the time. Plenty or Irish/Polish/Latino fighters that are unknown come over here then sell the place out because it is something to bring the community together. With regards to 'the other 48 states I was being facetious of course but it would be nice if they looked somewhere outside of the LA area is the point I'm trying to make.

Don't understand why they can't get a SGP in the States. They need to think outside the box, it doesn't just have to be in California. Metlife Stadium (home of NY Giants & Jets NFL teams) has held Monster Energy Supercross there the last few years. It's not exactly a hotbed area for that sport. Why not try there? Or Red Bull Stadium, 15 mins from Manhattan, HUGE polish community nearby. Or anywhere in the other 48 states they could look into They all have multi purpose stadiums that they want to fill, With the right promotion they could have a successful event. It seems odd to me they don't want to crack America, especially with Hancock still riding high.

For all the suggestions of Money issues I dont see one of the current 15 GP riders who look like they are struggling financially. In fact quite the opposite. For as long as I've been watching this sport (30 years) riders/promoters have complained about money. But they pretty much all come back year after year. I for one will not be fooled in thinking its purely for the love of the game...

Hancock can no longer be accused of a just a gate and go rider. Don't get me wrong not exactly a prime Mark Loram but still he's done his fair share of overtakes in the last few years. WC's for next Year... Tough call but The 2 Russians please, both would be fantastic additions.

I'm so glad we've got a light hearted thread going! Thank you all for some for very funny contributions. Out of the top drawer as a certain commentator would say!

Only problem is Rob we're not 100% sure what language Sudden Sam is speaking!!!

"I have to say"

Chaaaaaarges into the lead!

Hahaha cheers all, some belters!

Now that is a peach! Cant believe I forgot that!

Or 'Straightaway'

Hahaha yes!

Little bit of fun You gotta say Coming at him Haaaaard Woooooa Nige! The Swiss made GTR I'd Suggest Barely touched him Nige Incredible scenes! Proper Speedway Generates so much speed

Come on, heated discussion is good, let's not get personal..

I will admit I'm a fan and therefore stick up for him, but I still say the good outweighs the bad. As a fan all I want to see is him perform well. Him not riding in the BF final and sending out a few silly Tweets is far less annoying then when I used to watch (or even worse spend good money going to) GPs/World Cups and see the GB boys running terrible score after terrible score and blaming set up, track conditions, the weather, the time of the month or whatever else they could on another dismal performance... Anyway I will resist from commenting any more on the subject..

Please read what I wrote couple of pages back.

There's no way you could have seen the world cup. hahaha I know.