mdmc82 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Who did King sign for first? That should be the team that takes priority.... Not sure it works like that although who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 I would prefer King as captain for the reasons already stated. The only problem is that Hawkins was captain last year and he's still in the side this year, King wasn't here. So giving the captaincy to King would mean taking the job off Hawkins, which would be harsh and could possibly have a detrimental effect on Hawkins. So for that reason, I'd probably leave it with Hawkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) Not sure it works like that although who knows But why not? If the 2nd team hadn't come along and signed him he would have ridden for his "first" team all year. The second team would have known the risks of clashes (like Ipswich not going for Ellis once it was known he was at Lakeside again) Makes perfect sense, oh hang on thats the problem..... As for the captaincy, leave it with Hawkins, seemed to thrive in the role, if it not broken don't try and fix it! Edited February 8, 2015 by 2ndbendbeerhut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 But why not? If the 2nd team hadn't come along and signed him he would have ridden for his "first" team all year. The second team would have known the risks of clashes (like Ipswich not going for Ellis once it was known he was at Lakeside again) Makes perfect sense, oh hang on thats the problem..... As for the captaincy, leave it with Hawkins, seemed to thrive in the role, if it not broken don't try and fix it! Make Danny the vice captain, after all, Richie is very friendly with both Jason and Danny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bezza Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 I have just read Coventry will have priority on Danny King. I'm not sure exactly what impact this will have but it can't be ideal over the season. Do we simply have use of a guest facility up to his average when he is unavailable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 With King now being a BSPA asset, will Ipswich or Coventry get priority over his fixtures when there are clashes? Coventry will get priority, as they will also do over Redcar`s Stuart Robson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) Coventry will get priority, as they will also do over Redcar`s Stuart Robson. Which is ******* . Both sign for a PL club first, then sign for a EL club to "make up the numbers" and the PL team suffers. King will be missing 7 meetings, inc the home and away fixtures v Peterborough, thats a car full less going to the away match! Edited February 9, 2015 by 2ndbendbeerhut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Which is ******* . Both sign for a PL club first, then sign for a EL club to "make up the numbers" and the PL team suffers. They're both technically EL riders doubling up with PL teams which makes it eminently sensible. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Which is ******* . Both sign for a PL club first, then sign for a EL club to "make up the numbers" and the PL team suffers. King will be missing 7 meetings, inc the home and away fixtures v Peterborough, thats a car full less going to the away match! Coventry can confirm arrangements for priority on their doubling-up riders in 2015, and the news is good for Bees supporters. The Buildbase Bees will have first call on the services of both Danny King and Stuart Robson in the Elite League this season. Where a rider competes in both Elite and Premier Leagues, priority is with the rider’s parent club in the event of a clash of fixtures. However, in the case of King and Robson, neither are riding for their parent clubs this season. Robson, who has joined Redcar in the Premier League, is an asset of Elite League Lakeside, and it is the league of his parent club which therefore dictates the priority on his services. King’s registration, meanwhile, is being held by the BSPA following the collapse of Birmingham as an Elite League club last season, and he is therefore classed as an Elite League rider whilst also having a Premier League team place with Ipswich. At reserve, Bees also have priority on James Sarjeant as a club asset when their matches clash with Premier League Glasgow, whilst Jason Garrity is currently without a Premier League place after leaving Rye House last week. Coventry co-promoter Neil Watson said: “I fully understand it’s been a frustration for supporters in recent years that on several occasions we’ve had to make changes because of fixture clashes, especially in home matches. “It’s something we’ve worked hard to limit as much as possible this winter, and to have confirmation over Danny and Stuart is very positive. “This means we should have much more consistency over team selection this year, and I’m sure everyone will welcome that.” Here it is in all its glory, taken from Speedway 365. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) I have just read Coventry will have priority on Danny King. I'm not sure exactly what impact this will have but it can't be ideal over the season. Do we simply have use of a guest facility up to his average when he is unavailable? Where you read this mate? ah just seen it... Don't get the King issue King’s registration, meanwhile, is being held by the BSPA following the collapse of Birmingham as an Elite League club last season, and he is therefore classed as an Elite League rider whilst also having a Premier League team place with Ipswich. But Birmingham are not an EL club now so why is he classed as an EL rider? Edited February 9, 2015 by 2ndbendbeerhut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Great here we bloody go again! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAK Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 The sooner we get back in to the EL the better as far as I'm concerned. The Hammers fans must be drooling at the prospect of watching Andreas Jonsson most weeks and good luck to them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 They're both technically EL riders doubling up with PL teams which makes it eminently sensible.but it is double UP not double DOWN.The cause is of course the bastardisation of the original principle of giving up and comers the chance to try EL with less risk. As soon this changed problems were bound to occur. The fast track effectively covers the original DU aim now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) Good friday going to be fun....... guests have to come from Berwick (no Barker), Newcastle (no Kerr, Worrall) , Rye (no Kennett), Scunthorpe (No Auty), Workington (No Wells, Howarth) Also need a guest for Nielsen? and Peterborough possibly for Blackbird and Lambert (however if Blackbird is owned by Ipswich he will be able to ride as a PL asset!) Edited February 9, 2015 by 2ndbendbeerhut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Wasn't it said that the reason Adam Ellis dropped out of contention at a late stage was because he was named for Lakeside, a Friday track that would rule him out of too many fixtures? So now we have the exact same problem, this time with our number one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 but it is double UP not double DOWN. A term that pre-dates it's use in speedway and is quantitative and not directional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Kyle Howarth is a Comets Asset, luckily for us Wells will only miss 2 meetings for the season, when he is riding for Wolves. Going to effect the Thurs/Fri night tracks the most throughout the season so not ideal for the PL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Good friday going to be fun....... guests have to come from Berwick (no Barker), Newcastle (no Kerr, Worrall) , Rye (no Kennett), Scunthorpe (No Auty), Workington (No Wells, Howarth) Where will Barker be as not in EL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) Good friday going to be fun....... guests have to come from Berwick (no Barker), Newcastle (no Kerr, Worrall) , Rye (no Kennett), Scunthorpe (No Auty), Workington (No Wells, Howarth) Also need a guest for Nielsen? and Peterborough possibly for Blackbird and Lambert (however if Blackbird is owned by Ipswich he will be able to ride as a PL asset!) Couldn't King ride the Good Friday Foxhall meeting before hot footing it to Coventry in the Evening? That would make things a little easier. A right pain in the arse now though as we'll be leading up to numerous fixtures this season wondering who our number 1 is going to be Edited February 9, 2015 by Bloomy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) Where will Barker be as not in EL? Ave is higher than King Also as King will be missing friday fixtures not many guests to choose from eg Plymouth (A) 24/4 24-04-15 Coventry v Belle Vue EL 24-04-15 Lakeside v Wolverhampton EL 24-04-15 Edinburgh v Glasgow LC 24-04-15 Plymouth v Ipswich LC 24-04-15 Scunthorpe v Redcar (TBC) LC 24-04-15 Somerset v Peterborough LC Danny King 8.84 Lasse Bjerre 8.65 Redcar Eddie Kennett 8.38 Lakeside Rohan Tungate 8.36 Sam Masters 8.22 Edinburgh Richard Lawson 8.22 Glasgow Nick Morris 8.14 Glasgow Josh Grajczonek 8.11 Somerset Ulrich Ostergaard 8.00 Peterborough Max Fricke 7.96 Belle Vue Ryan Fisher 7.89 Plymouth Aaron Summers 7.78 Glasgow Rene Bach 7.64 Stuart Robson 7.56 Coventry Steve Worrall 7.46 Lewis Kerr 7.54 Brady Kurtz 7.54 Somerset Matej Kus 7.52 Redcar Morten Risager 7.36 Plymouth Richie Worrall 7.32 Somerset David Howe 7.5 Scunthorpe leaves a lot of choice eh? Edited February 9, 2015 by 2ndbendbeerhut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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