dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Was mentioned at Lynn forum tonight that Jacob's was due to ride for the Witches in the PL this season before dropping the bombshell of his retirement.it seems Joe didnt think the deal he was offered was enough for him to manage with. A great shame that again a young Brit cant make it pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northyorksbear Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 From a neutral's point of view - I thought your first signings for top 5 were ok, and gave a solid base - however Covatti and Nielsen at reserve, for me, have turned it from an ok team to a very strong side, got to up there near top challenging Both of reserves have been mentioned on Bears forums as potential signings - primarily with the aim of completing top five, so for you to have both at reserve - well done to Ipswich promotion. Good Luck for the season ahead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 it seems Joe didnt think the deal he was offered was enough for him to manage with. A great shame that again a young Brit cant make it pay.Perhaps Joe was just asking for more than Chris Louis was willing to pay. Nielsen obviously is happy enough with what he was offered as he's accepted a place and I'm not sure the Ipswich promotion would be offering more to a rider who was effectively their second choice. Jacobs is entitled to say yes or no to any offer and he's said no, Louis then moved for another rider who said yes, so all sorted. Doesn't stop any of the other clubs offering Joe a deal which they either have and he's rejected them also, or nobody else is simply interested which in itself tell a story. You want a team of riders with fire in their belly and a real hunger to succeed, so it's probably best that Ipswich missed out on Jacobs as it seems his heart is no longer in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Perhaps Joe was just asking for more than Chris Louis was willing to pay. Nielsen obviously is happy enough with what he was offered as he's accepted a place and I'm not sure the Ipswich promotion would be offering more to a rider who was effectively their second choice. Jacobs is entitled to say yes or no to any offer and he's said no, Louis then moved for another rider who said yes, so all sorted. Doesn't stop any of the other clubs offering Joe a deal which they either have and he's rejected them also, or nobody else is simply interested which in itself tell a story. You want a team of riders with fire in their belly and a real hunger to succeed, so it's probably best that Ipswich missed out on Jacobs as it seems his heart is no longer in it. not disputing any of that.It is best that the club does run to the bugdet it can afford and make deals that safeguards the stability for yhe future. I was not claiming any deal was not good enough un relation to the norm - I know no more than anyone on that score - just that the cost ls for a young rider are huge. Without decent outside backing it is very difficult. Unfortunately Joe like many others cant make it add up which is a shame but thats the reality of life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Well Jacobs has now tweeted that he hasn't quit the sport at all, just taking a year out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 From a neutral's point of view - I thought your first signings for top 5 were ok, and gave a solid base - however Covatti and Nielsen at reserve, for me, have turned it from an ok team to a very strong side, got to up there near top challenging Both of reserves have been mentioned on Bears forums as potential signings - primarily with the aim of completing top five, so for you to have both at reserve - well done to Ipswich promotion. Good Luck for the season ahead I agree - I think that's a good team. King is obviously one of the top riders in the PL, I was very impressed with Manzares last season and Heeps still has a lot of potential. Covatti was very disappointing at Sheffield last year but he's better than that - the last time I saw him ride for Birmingham he went round the outside of Craig Cook at Belle Vue, no mean feat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 According to Glasgow Forum Easy,Tiger Joe Jacobs will sit out 2015 but return 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted December 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Apparently so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve55 Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Have to agree with NYbear & Htiger, this could be a play off team with any one of four riders being at reserve at one time or another. Covatti with the right engines and correct set ups can be a match winner at most tracks. Stephan is a strong rider who doesn't give up and has the will to win every time he goes out, wether first or fenced in his previous race. A strong number one and what appears strength in depth, could surprise a few next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Rightly or wrongly i do worry about our side a bit. Trying to compare it to 2014 side: 2014: Worrall , Tungate , Risager as heat leaders. 2015: King , Tungate, Manzares. - think we look weaker there lot of pressure on Gino as Number 3 heat leader to step up. 2014: Manzares , Hawkins 2015: Heeps, Hawkins - is Cam going to be able to produce the scores Gino did last season? 2014: Heeps , Ellis 2015 Covatti, Nielsen - Can Covatto match Cam or Richies perfromances? Can Stefan match Ellis? I really dont believe we are stronger than last season to be honest. Last year we fell just short and i can see a same scenario Hope im proved wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkidSolo Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 The Nico deal was really touch and go for a while. Chris wasn't prepared to spend club funds on an Italian flag for the centre green. As always the fans came to the rescue and managed to purchase an il Tricolore, from Yippee Its 99p. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 The Nico deal was really touch and go for a while. Chris wasn't prepared to spend club funds on an Italian flag for the centre green. As always the fans came to the rescue and managed to purchase an il Tricolore, from Yippee Its 99p. Why would we want an Italian flag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Jacobs is entitled to say yes or no to any offer and he's said no, Louis then moved for another rider who said yes, so all sorted. Doesn't stop any of the other clubs offering Joe a deal which they either have and he's rejected them also, or nobody else is simply interested which in itself tell a story. There will be team places going for any riders injured or dropped throughout the season should Jacobs reconsider and want a place somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northyorksbear Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Why would we want an Italian flag? Danny King's favourite holiday destination and young Heeps loves Pizzas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 And Richie wife owns a Fiat 500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Why would we want an Italian flag?convenience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presenter Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 The Nico deal was really touch and go for a while. Chris wasn't prepared to spend club funds on an Italian flag for the centre green. As always the fans came to the rescue and managed to purchase an il Tricolore, from Yippee Its 99p. A little trivia for you. That is that I personally order and pay for the flags every year. I get a brand new set at the start of the new season. In fact, when Chris Louis asks me about team building I try to get him to sign someone from Sweden, Poland, Germany and the Czech Republic as I have these flags at Foxhall collecting dust! Peeks at Bournmouth, are the flag supplier if you need to get any of the Nationalities to adorn the terraces at Ipswich Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) I didn't know you did that or that they are new every year. Well done you. What are your thoughts on the team Kevin? Edited December 11, 2014 by baldyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presenter Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) I also put them up and take them down for every meeting! When you look at all the teams together, and consider that Ipswich has been put together within 0.10 of the 42.50 limit, it's points well spent for me. Each year in the Premier League, Chris has tried a different approach to how the team has been built. It is an age old argument about whether top end strength vs strength in depth is the way to go. For me, having a King / Tungate spearhead should prove a productive one. I think the reserves are more than capable of scoring consistently good points. I'm a little frustrated by all the "why was Ellis not re-signed" brigade. When you speak with Chris Louis, as I did on Monday, it's clear that there are many factors that influence the signing, or not, of certain riders. And some are all to easy to point fingers at the promotion, which are sometimes not justified. *jumps off soap box to complete reply to question* That leaves the middle order; and in particular Heeps and Manzares. These two are no doubt the future of the Witches and as Chris had said he has unfinished business with both of them. Certainly Gino would have gained an awful lot if knowledge and experience from his first UK season. Likewise Cameron needs to truly believe in his abilities and we saw from the end of last season, that when fully confident and on reliable machinery he really is a talent. A major part of Chris relinquishing the team managers role was to enable him to be on hand and ready to assist any of the team throughout a meeting when needed. Whether that be mechanic or psychological support, as a former rider there is no one better placed at the Club to do this; and another reason why Ipswich Speedway is in such good hands. Also the contribution of John Louis on race nights should not be overlooked or underestimated. Most meetings last year he worked very closely with Ritchie Worrall and you could see the lad improving as a result of listening and learning from such a legend. In conclusion, I'm excited for the new season. Not just for Ipswich, but for the League itself as there are some very attractive sides being assembled and once again I see the Premier League providing the best speedway in the UK! Edited December 11, 2014 by Presenter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smod Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 The Nico deal was really touch and go for a while. Chris wasn't prepared to spend club funds on an Italian flag for the centre green. As always the fans came to the rescue and managed to purchase an il Tricolore, from Yippee Its 99p. He's from Argentina. If you must snipe at the hard-working promotion, at least use the correct bullets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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