tellboy Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 59 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: No, Anders Rowe remains a Rising Star rider, but he isn’t nominated as an RS rider in Ipswich’s 1-7 So as Anders Rowe can guest for a rising star and anyone from 1-6 if his average fits.Could then any rising star who don't have an average guest for any 1-6 rider ie say Brennan for Wells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, NeilWatson said: No, Anders Rowe remains a Rising Star rider, but he isn’t nominated as an RS rider in Ipswich’s 1-7 To be honest that’s how I read things. Rowe IS on the Rising Star list so can guest for another RS? He is declared in main team by Ipswich so can have a true average. Edited July 26, 2021 by stevebrum Amended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 3 hours ago, stevebrum said: To be honest that’s how I read things. Rowe IS on the Rising Star list so can guest for another RS? He is declared a RS by Ipswich so can have a true average. He's not Ipswich's RS rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 It's not hard to grasp is it,,, he is on the Rising Star list at the start of the season,, and still on it,,, ipswich don't use him as a rising star,, as only one rising star per team this season in the Prem,,, Kemp is ipswich rising star. So Rowe gets an average, but because he is on the list still,, he can guest for other 4 rising stars. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 12 hours ago, tellboy said: So as Anders Rowe can guest for a rising star and anyone from 1-6 if his average fits.Could then any rising star who don't have an average guest for any 1-6 rider ie say Brennan for Wells. Could you answer the above question Neil,or hasn't that scenario been thought of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 13 hours ago, tellboy said: So as Anders Rowe can guest for a rising star and anyone from 1-6 if his average fits.Could then any rising star who don't have an average guest for any 1-6 rider ie say Brennan for Wells. 29 minutes ago, tellboy said: Could you answer the above question Neil,or hasn't that scenario been thought of. I don't believe that is possible, precisely because the RS riders don't have a Green Sheet average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 If another 'Woffy' came along and rode in the main body of the team, but was still an RS (like Anders Rowe), and ran say a 7 point average as he was so good... Could he then guest as a replacement for a 4* rider? Presume so given it appears your average 'doesn't matter' as was shown when Rowe recently guested for Bates.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 minute ago, mikebv said: If another 'Woffy' came along and rode in the main body of the team, but was still an RS (like Anders Rowe), and ran say a 7 point average as he was so good... Could he then guest as a replacement for a 4* rider? Presume so given it appears your average 'doesn't matter' as was shown when Rowe recently guested for Bates.. Yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrybishop Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 19 hours ago, ouch said: Which begs the question why the Isle of Wight left the league after going through this democratic process. Odd. Does anyone know why Kemp doesn’t have an average? In this years case there was no democratic process, the rules, changes and new entrants were impossed upon us and we were not guaranteed that it would return to normal in 2022 - ie by way of a democratic vote. This is why we left. Had there been a democratic vote or even a promise to allow a democratic vote for 2022 we would still be in the BSPL. We could not allow ourselves to be dictated to, put on something we struggled to support, at our cost, our risk, our reputation, to develop riders we are not allowed to sign... totally for the benefit of higher leagues.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 10 hours ago, NeilWatson said: He's not Ipswich's RS rider Oops my bag, I’ve altered post for accuracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 43 minutes ago, barrybishop said: In this years case there was no democratic process, the rules, changes and new entrants were impossed upon us and we were not guaranteed that it would return to normal in 2022 - ie by way of a democratic vote. This is why we left. Had there been a democratic vote or even a promise to allow a democratic vote for 2022 we would still be in the BSPL. We could not allow ourselves to be dictated to, put on something we struggled to support, at our cost, our risk, our reputation, to develop riders we are not allowed to sign... totally for the benefit of higher leagues.... Speedway in the U.K. is run by the ACU/SCB & BSPL, if you want to play the game you really have to be part of it, warts and all. The costs are relevant to what league you are in, the higher the league the more the cost. The BSPL have always dictated things, that’s nothing new is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 5 hours ago, NeilWatson said: I don't believe that is possible, precisely because the RS riders don't have a Green Sheet average. I find that a bit unfair on all the other rising stars if that's the case then.So Rowe can guest for both but all the others can't.They do all have an average though that they could still work to surely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted July 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 5 hours ago, NeilWatson said: I don't believe that is possible, precisely because the RS riders don't have a Green Sheet average. Think it was confirmed they're all deemed a 3.00 to be able to guest in the 1-6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 5 hours ago, mikebv said: If another 'Woffy' came along and rode in the main body of the team, but was still an RS (like Anders Rowe), and ran say a 7 point average as he was so good... Could he then guest as a replacement for a 4* rider? Presume so given it appears your average 'doesn't matter' as was shown when Rowe recently guested for Bates.. Let me remind you of the last such scheme (fast track development) when just such a rider guested for inexperienced Lee Derbyshire - his name Tai Woffinden! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 23 hours ago, mrss said: I am sure that Andres Rowe is on the rising star list , but Ipswich put him into the main body of the team so didn’t use him as their rising star option. That's right, Drew Kemp is who they are using as their Rising Star .... I should've explained myself more clearly durrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 11 hours ago, tellboy said: I find that a bit unfair on all the other rising stars if that's the case then.So Rowe can guest for both but all the others can't. maybe one of the reasons NOT to sign up to the RS list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 On 7/25/2021 at 5:03 PM, tellboy said: So as Anders Rowe can guest for a rising star and anyone from 1-6 if his average fits.Could then any rising star who don't have an average guest for any 1-6 rider ie say Brennan for Wells. Surely Brennan must be able to guest for Wells, 4* equating to a 4.00 ave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted August 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 2 changes http://www.kingslynn-speedway.com/news.php?extend.31111 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: 2 changes http://www.kingslynn-speedway.com/news.php?extend.31111 I'm happy with that,something had to happen.Those 2 gave up when last and were not committed to riding for King's Lynn imo.Even if Barker don't score many points i am sure you will see a rider putting in some effort.Not my favourite rider but he now gets my support as he is riding for us Edited August 3, 2021 by tellboy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 What is Heeps current average? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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