TTT Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 Michael Tomalin on Facebook. A hugely busy period for the consortium with some updates coming very soon to confirm our objectives with the next phase of the Peterborough Panthers Speedway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Crump99 said: And Butterfield has never given any impression that he and his land promoters see a future for Peterborough Speedway at the EoES. As far as he and they are concerned it's job done. The messaging from Chapman has been negative from the start and he never (outwardly anyway) put up any fight to save the club or explain what changed from his 2022 message of a few more seasons at the EoES (unless he made that up of course?) to his capitulation of consistently singing the AEPG agenda. And to be fair, CJ had been similarly negative, up to his leaving, from the start (whether under duress or out of necessity not I don't know). The supporters club came to the party too late: I've been amazed all year that they've been ticking along like it's business as usual with the sands of time running out for their club as each meeting passed. If only the Peterborough Needs Speedway flag had appeared at that pre-season rider introduction promo rather than at the EoES when time was almost up. What Chapman has or hasn't got to sell and who is pulling whose strings I don't know. It can't be too difficult to make a sale on what he has or hasn't got and draw up a contract with clauses in for future eventualities? It's a shame that the SCB/BSPA can't issue a new licence for say Alwalton Speedway so that the consortium can move forward. SCB/BSPA put in a strong objection to Butterfield and AEPG's planned destruction of Peterborough Speedway but they seemingly are happy to see one of their members take down one of their premium clubs, track and stadium to further weaken their struggling product? Funny old sport innit. The recent application which the council turned down in respect of the DHL business must have come as a major shock to both Butterfield and DHL as it cuts off a major revenue stream, most of the people I know and myself thought he would get planning permission granted after following the meeting online. As the council was minded to refuse that on the basis of local opinion and 150 objections despite approval from the city planning dept, it doesn’t look good for the next two housing applications which has major opposition from just about everyone as well as nearly two thousand online objections and being against the PCC local plans. If I was Butterfield I would be a worried man because having already sunk a large investment into the application it’s now looking very unlikely he is going to get it home, he can bleat all he likes that speedway is finished at the Showground and is not viable but locally now that’s been showed up to my be bullshyte, so one would have thought it’s time to pull your horns in and come up with a compromise which benefits both AEPG and Peterborough Speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers99 Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 hour ago, TTT said: Michael Tomalin on Facebook. A hugely busy period for the consortium with some updates coming very soon to confirm our objectives with the next phase of the Peterborough Panthers Speedway One thing I've learnt in the past 12 months, ignore everything he says, often a crock of sh... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 hour ago, bigcatdiary said: The recent application which the council turned down in respect of the DHL business must have come as a major shock to both Butterfield and DHL as it cuts off a major revenue stream, most of the people I know and myself thought he would get planning permission granted after following the meeting online. As the council was minded to refuse that on the basis of local opinion and 150 objections despite approval from the city planning dept, it doesn’t look good for the next two housing applications which has major opposition from just about everyone as well as nearly two thousand online objections and being against the PCC local plans. If I was Butterfield I would be a worried man because having already sunk a large investment into the application it’s now looking very unlikely he is going to get it home, he can bleat all he likes that speedway is finished at the Showground and is not viable but locally now that’s been showed up to my be bullshyte, so one would have thought it’s time to pull your horns in and come up with a compromise which benefits both AEPG and Peterborough Speedway. They lost a small battle that they should have won but it's really small beer compared to the EoES development. I wouldn't get too hung up on the number of objections. They'll have learnt from that meeting which isn't helpful to us. Cllr Julie Stevenson@CllrJulieS Oct 17 - They picked up on AEPG's lack of consultation given there were so many objections. The showground masterplan is a very different beast to this. The number of comments isn't the significant metric. The number of PEOPLE who turn up to planning meetings is. That's my tip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNutter Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 2 hours ago, bigcatdiary said: The recent application which the council turned down in respect of the DHL business must have come as a major shock to both Butterfield and DHL as it cuts off a major revenue stream, most of the people I know and myself thought he would get planning permission granted after following the meeting online. As the council was minded to refuse that on the basis of local opinion and 150 objections despite approval from the city planning dept, it doesn’t look good for the next two housing applications which has major opposition from just about everyone as well as nearly two thousand online objections and being against the PCC local plans. If I was Butterfield I would be a worried man because having already sunk a large investment into the application it’s now looking very unlikely he is going to get it home, he can bleat all he likes that speedway is finished at the Showground and is not viable but locally now that’s been showed up to my be bullshyte, so one would have thought it’s time to pull your horns in and come up with a compromise which benefits both AEPG and Peterborough Speedway. From evidence we have seen it looks like he has a very large loan to service so he is probably losing a lot of other people's money. And with interest as high as it is, that loan gets a lot bigger the longer it is not fed. Someone owns that loan and may be looking for some way to re-assess the risk profile somewhat. Could be "interesting" if the money drought continues much longer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Bratley Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 Butterfield doesn’t realise it yet, the key to his development plans is held by the Speedway club. He will have to speak to the consortium at some point. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stbender Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) Sorry newbie here so I’m late to the party and may have missed this somewhere so the answer to this may be a simple one. If a sale from Chapman is proving difficult what’s stopping the consortium gaining a new licence and calling it “Peterborough Phoenix” and work from there getting back at Showground? If not what’s the obstacle and why? Edited November 3, 2023 by 1stbender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitch Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid025GAvQUw2p9R7AkfyRMQ9HgEDuqPWvXQRvDzdxTpDeebsDketbLrj1CiNiEvShqzAl&id=100064051810908 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW436 Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Pitch said: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid025GAvQUw2p9R7AkfyRMQ9HgEDuqPWvXQRvDzdxTpDeebsDketbLrj1CiNiEvShqzAl&id=100064051810908 Any ideas what it might be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitch Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 51 minutes ago, JoeW436 said: Any ideas what it might be? No, but it looks like the announcement will be made at the Panthers "big bash" on Saturday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 52 minutes ago, JoeW436 said: Any ideas what it might be? Just now, Pitch said: No, but it looks like the announcement will be made at the Panthers "big bash" on Saturday night. Going to go for a year extension at the showground. Seems the most likely if you running next year need to confirm place at AGM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) Would of had to of been a very quick agreement to a meeting even taking place let alone any deal to extend so cannot see that being the announcement, There has been talk on FB of a date being arranged to conduct a "protest" walk in Peterborough , with advice to get the tshirts , banners and flags ready So my guess its time to get your warm winter coat and suitable footware sorted . Edited November 3, 2023 by scoobydoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 37 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: Would of had to of been a very quick agreement to a meeting even taking place let alone any deal to extend so cannot see that being the announcement, There has been talk on FB of a date being arranged to conduct a "protest" walk in Peterborough , with advice to get the tshirts , banners and flags ready So my guess its time to get your warm winter coat and suitable footware sorted . It could be that a deal has been finalised with Chapman I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 17 minutes ago, noaksey said: It could be that a deal has been finalised with Chapman I guess It was posted by Cllr Julie Stevenson , unless she is now on the consortium and has put up some cash as well it wont be that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 So when is this huge announcement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaxley panther Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, LagutaRacingFan said: So when is this huge announcement? Sometime this evening at the Panthers end of season bash Edited November 4, 2023 by yaxley panther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 14 minutes ago, LagutaRacingFan said: So when is this huge announcement? The councillor woman now says there is no news announcement, it's more a request for help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaxley panther Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 27 minutes ago, PotteringAround said: The councillor woman now says there is no news announcement, it's more a request for help. She doesn't say that though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 35 minutes ago, yaxley panther said: She doesn't say that though Yes she did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaxley panther Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, PotteringAround said: Yes she did "The Peterborough Panthers Club will make an announcement on Saturday evening. They need your support so please keep an eye out for it" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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