mikebv Posted Saturday at 11:18 AM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:18 AM 1 hour ago, GiveusaB said: There lies Tolleys biggest mistake...his first signing should've been someone who knows how to run a speedway club....its been the blind leading the blind since he got involved! With only 500 attending, even with a winning team, you would still not be hitting a huge 100% increase... And, even if you did, that would still be only 1000.. The bottom line is, the people of Birmingham, like so many other major cities in the UK, are just not that interested in Speedway... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted Saturday at 12:35 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 12:35 PM On 8/21/2025 at 7:57 PM, IainB said: If he's spaffed well north of half a mill during his tenure to get the results he has then he's either completely mad or has been very poorly advised! Pretty sure poole would still be for sale,notwithstanding he would have still been buying into a lease problem,must surely have been a better buy?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted Saturday at 05:12 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 05:12 PM 8 hours ago, PersonalResponsibility said: If he was so altruistic he could've at least given Bartosz his £7.5k a meeting instead of wasting money on Zagar and Rew 😝 They are the ones who have been doing well! Rew has stepped up as the third heat leader; it is the No. 1 who has been the biggest disappointment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted yesterday at 11:03 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:03 AM (edited) 23 hours ago, mikebv said: With only 500 attending, even with a winning team, you would still not be hitting a huge 100% increase... And, even if you did, that would still be only 1000.. The bottom line is, the people of Birmingham, like so many other major cities in the UK, are just not that interested in Speedway... Part of his issue would have been the stadium rent, he even considered (for a bit) continuing to be the single leaseholder if i understood what he said correctly. If you take places like Plymouth / Workington / Scunthorpe I can only assume there model is that they are not constrained by large rents to a landlord? ergo they have a bit more budget for riders etc, or it helps stem losses. This goes back to a guy who was a chartered surveryor who many years back wrote on here and in the star about many clubs being hampered by renting - the future he argued was owning your won stadium etc. I caught a bt of the marketing from Plymouth on facebook and they seem to be doing the kids races like up in Glasgow. On that note the Glasgow promotion -have proved that perhaps you can attract a decent (ish) crowd in a large City? In the same star as the Tolley interview there is a decent bit on Glagow and their ambition - they get 1500+ crowds - the type that Tolley would have loved to get! Edited yesterday at 11:05 AM by GeneralMelchett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted yesterday at 11:10 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:10 AM 17 hours ago, *JJ said: They are the ones who have been doing well! Rew has stepped up as the third heat leader; it is the No. 1 who has been the biggest disappointment. You would have thought Lampart, Pawliki and Milik would have taught him not to sign Poles (and Czechs) - I agree Tobi M has been a flop! I had my doubts in the first meeting at Sheffield when he mustered 3 from 4 starts on one of his former home tracks! ATleast he is now attractive to any club for 2026. Of course the real shame was Jensen bailing when he did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarBoy Posted yesterday at 11:35 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:35 AM 25 minutes ago, GeneralMelchett said: You would have thought Lampart, Pawliki and Milik would have taught him not to sign Poles (and Czechs) - I agree Tobi M has been a flop! I had my doubts in the first meeting at Sheffield when he mustered 3 from 4 starts on one of his former home tracks! ATleast he is now attractive to any club for 2026. Of course the real shame was Jensen bailing when he did! I thought it was common knowledge that he didn’t bail and had only signed a short-term deal… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted yesterday at 01:28 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 01:28 PM 2 hours ago, GeneralMelchett said: You would have thought Lampart, Pawliki and Milik would have taught him not to sign Poles (and Czechs) - I agree Tobi M has been a flop! I had my doubts in the first meeting at Sheffield when he mustered 3 from 4 starts on one of his former home tracks! ATleast he is now attractive to any club for 2026. Of course the real shame was Jensen bailing when he did! In fairness to TM he has always been great value and dedicated to British Speedway. And usually a very reliable heat leader. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted yesterday at 01:38 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 01:38 PM 9 minutes ago, stevebrum said: In fairness to TM he has always been great value and dedicated to British Speedway. And usually a very reliable heat leader. Except for the time when he picked up one of those injuries that only allowed him to ride in Poland when he should have been riding for King's Lynn and left them up the creek like Ben Cook did this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted yesterday at 02:47 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 02:47 PM 1 hour ago, stevebrum said: In fairness to TM he has always been great value and dedicated to British Speedway. And usually a very reliable heat leader. Agree but no I denying it’s been a bad year for him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted yesterday at 02:51 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 02:51 PM 3 hours ago, StarBoy said: I thought it was common knowledge that he didn’t bail and had only signed a short-term deal… Well Maybe… but the interview suggested differently! What do I believe …not sure I really am that bothered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted yesterday at 05:03 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 05:03 PM 5 hours ago, StarBoy said: I thought it was common knowledge that he didn’t bail and had only signed a short-term deal… In the Speedway Star, Tolley says quite clearly that MJJ was signed for the whole season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago 20 hours ago, GeneralMelchett said: Part of his issue would have been the stadium rent, he even considered (for a bit) continuing to be the single leaseholder if i understood what he said correctly. If you take places like Plymouth / Workington / Scunthorpe I can only assume there model is that they are not constrained by large rents to a landlord? ergo they have a bit more budget for riders etc, or it helps stem losses. This goes back to a guy who was a chartered surveryor who many years back wrote on here and in the star about many clubs being hampered by renting - the future he argued was owning your won stadium etc. I caught a bt of the marketing from Plymouth on facebook and they seem to be doing the kids races like up in Glasgow. On that note the Glasgow promotion -have proved that perhaps you can attract a decent (ish) crowd in a large City? In the same star as the Tolley interview there is a decent bit on Glagow and their ambition - they get 1500+ crowds - the type that Tolley would have loved to get! If Tolley continues somewhere else he should do it at Championship level to stem losses, try and get Rosco in as team manager and ideally find an experienced co-promoter. His heart is clearly in the right place but he needs a competent team around him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 17 hours ago, GeneralMelchett said: Agree but no I denying it’s been a bad year for him! I don't think he can cope with the pressure of being a number one he seems okay if he sits below someone like Jack Holder, Woffy or Fricke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago (edited) This will be our last meeting of the ways. I could write 10,000 words but may be just a few are far more relevant for me. Like many I have grown weary. I am sad of watching you exist. A DNR sticker is the best recourse. Like a parent, a relative, a loyal pet, a great friend, it breaks my heart to see you in pain, living a sad existance. Not alive but existing. I will shed a tear but i will be thankful that the pain is over and I can remember all the great days and not the bad days! Stay safe my friend . May be we meet one day again, at that perfect Oval up in heaven! Edited 10 hours ago by HGould spelling 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mgas Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago Wishing all Brummie fans a brilliant and memorable night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 40 minutes ago, Mgas said: Wishing all Brummie fans a brilliant and memorable night. Agree. Unfortunately not a winning night for the Brummies and a sad night for UK speedway. Where does it go from here, who knows but Birmingham, thank you for your contribution to speedway in the UK over the years and the memories with the likes of Arthur Browning etc and many a good meeting at Rayleigh pre 73. Let’s hope someone somewhere can revive the sport in the Midlands. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago A horrid end for brum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago Where will all these fans when Birmingham needed them. I’ve seen some brum fans got refused entrance because it was full, which is good to hear that it was full but when you have the stay always coming for one last time preventing the regulars from coming. Does seem harsh. at same time it’s stupid they didn’t pre-book so got themselves to blame also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejam Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 47 minutes ago, Hawk127 said: Agree. Unfortunately not a winning night for the Brummies and a sad night for UK speedway. Where does it go from here, who knows but Birmingham, thank you for your contribution to speedway in the UK over the years and the memories with the likes of Arthur Browning etc and many a good meeting at Rayleigh pre 73. Let’s hope someone somewhere can revive the sport in the Midlands. Top comment Hawk 127👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 25 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: Where will all these fans when Birmingham needed them. I’ve seen some brum fans got refused entrance because it was full, which is good to hear that it was full but when you have the stay always coming for one last time preventing the regulars from coming. Does seem harsh. at same time it’s stupid they didn’t pre-book so got themselves to blame also Surely that's not correct, Perry Barr can hold a decent crowd and just because its a few over is neither here nor there, and who counts them ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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