Hawk127 Posted Tuesday at 07:12 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 07:12 PM 9 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Doesn’t matter about my opinion but the things you state are just not true, I’m not going to address individual points you make cause quite frankly I bored of trying to explain to folk who only read the headlines and don’t read the small print which is usually where you find the truth,I’m not having a go at you I’m just saying that your points are exactly that OK thanks. This is a forum and each participant is supposedly allowed to express an opinion but many on here make it an unpleasant experience and should rely on those like you with first hand experience to put the record straight. Let’s leave it at that. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted Tuesday at 07:15 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 07:15 PM 1 minute ago, Hawk127 said: OK thanks. This is a forum and each participant is supposedly allowed to express an opinion but many on here make it an unpleasant experience and should rely on those like you with first hand experience to put the record straight. Let’s leave it at that. Cheers. I know nothing, I’ve told everyone enough times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted Tuesday at 07:16 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 07:16 PM Is there such thing as a dive in speedway, if there is I think we have just witnessed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted Tuesday at 07:20 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 07:20 PM I thought Rybnik would be more competitive than this but guess not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted Tuesday at 07:20 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 07:20 PM 2 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Is there such thing as a dive in speedway, if there is I think we have just witnessed it Don’t know what he’s doing, team mate is away and gone just get up never getting a all four back for that. Thankfully the meeting is done for his sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted Tuesday at 07:25 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 07:25 PM (edited) That lap from Nicki was total amateur, past everyone full throttle, got to turn 3 and forgot to turn, try’s to correct it to find Emil in his way Edited Tuesday at 07:28 PM by THE DEAN MACHINE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted Tuesday at 07:28 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 07:28 PM 1 minute ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: That lap from Nicki was total amateur Selfish best way to describe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted Tuesday at 07:29 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 07:29 PM 23 minutes ago, Hawk127 said: OK but it is one opinion and I am sure many may share you view but it is based on what is seen for what it is and I accept your opinion. Something needs to change to recreate the glory days of UK speedway but that is should be open to debate. I respect your view given your experience which is far more valid then many on here. The glory days of British Speedway is just a memory and will never return.IMO.Tracks closing down and crowd levels hardly helping ,nobody in there right mind will invest there own money into the sport .Sad times. Just compare entertainment value and crowd levels at Top Level over the weekend in Poland Sparta vLublin to Kings Lynn v Oxford. Night and day. Don’t have solution though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted Tuesday at 07:32 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 07:32 PM Vintage Pedersen in that race. It is good to see that he can still mix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcone44 Posted Tuesday at 07:33 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 07:33 PM yes still has the fight in him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted Tuesday at 08:05 PM Author Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:05 PM Even at this early stage of the season it doesn’t take a genius to work out that with the new play-off format this season Lublin, Wroclaw , Torun and Grudziadz will be fighting out the title showdown and Gorzow, Zielona Gora, Czestochowa and Rybnik the relegation play-offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted Tuesday at 09:19 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:19 PM 1 hour ago, racers and royals said: Even at this early stage of the season it doesn’t take a genius to work out that with the new play-off format this season Lublin, Wroclaw , Torun and Grudziadz will be fighting out the title showdown and Gorzow, Zielona Gora, Czestochowa and Rybnik the relegation play-offs. Only real surprise is how good grudiadz have been and how bad zielona gora have been, I think falubaz will improve when they get Madsen and Hampel going, both have been really poor so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted Wednesday at 10:30 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 10:30 AM 15 hours ago, Hawk127 said: If you watch the riders in this league and look at the performance in the UK why does U K speedway think it can compete. It has three or possibly four teams who could provide decent opposition at this level but the rest are also rans with riders simply topping up the pension pot. Someone at the governing level needs to take a long hard look at where the racing is in this country. It cannot compete at this time with the likes of Poland so take time out to find at what level Speedway U K sits. Riders who compete in Poland generally go through the motions in the U K and the down side for them is huge if they get injured racing for an U K team. Why would you want to ride in front of sparse crowds in the U K when you have the Polish option of well supported teams in modern stadia unless it is simply to top up the income always assuming you manage the risks. No disrespect but the likes of Birmingham are with limited financial resources and track availability on a hiding to nothing if you are relying on attracting the dream of Polish riders and they would probably be better associated with one overall league. Sad that U K speedway finds itself where it is but the current custodians should shoulder most of 5he blame for years of indecisive management and lack of forethought. We don't try and compete with Polish Speedway though, British Speedway is just biding it's time and seeing out it's final years before the door finally closes, The game has been up for a long time over here and it's just a case of how many more years can we squeeze out of it. Our Sport is Football hence the reason why everything gets thrown at it from Top level Production to Mega TV contracts to a point where no single company can afford to buy all the rights and it gets shared around, Speedway is never going to get money thrown at it again over here because the interest just isn't around for it so it's also going to be a lower end budget sport for TV companies. Not being offensive here but as a collective group the Poles aren't good at any other sport, They have the odd sports Man or Woman doing very well like Robert Lewandowski or Iga Swiatek but that's it so it makes sense for the Pole's to go all in on Speedway hence the reason why Television companies are ready to splash the Zloty's and go all in on Speedway with mega Production and the Sponsors want in too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted Wednesday at 01:31 PM Author Report Share Posted Wednesday at 01:31 PM Round 6 timings announced Friday 23rd May Rybnik v Wroclaw start time 5pm UK time Eleven Sports 1 Torun v Grudziadz start time 7.30pm UK time Eleven Sports 1 Sunday 25th May Gorzow v Lublin start time 4pm UK time Canal + Sport Czestochowa v Zielona Gora 6.30pm UK time Canal + Sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted Thursday at 08:21 AM Author Report Share Posted Thursday at 08:21 AM (edited) Sunday’s line-ups Grudziadz v Wroclaw Grudziadz 9 Fricke 10 Lidsey 11 MJJ 12 Miskowiak 13 Tarasenko 14 Lobodzinski 15 Malkiewicz 16 Wroclaw 1 Laguta 2 Janowski 3 Kowalski 4 Bewley 5 Kurtz 6 Kowolik 7 Mikolajczyk 8 Gorzow v Zielona Gora Gorzow 9 Vaculik 10 Thomsen 11 O Fajfer 12 Lebedevs 13 Chatlas 14 Jablonski 15 Paluch 16 Zielona Gora 1 Hampel 2 McDiarmid 3 Madsen 4 Jensen 5 Prem Pawlicki 6 Ratajczak 7 Hurysz 8 Edited Thursday at 12:59 PM by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted Thursday at 10:02 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:02 AM 23 hours ago, TTT said: We don't try and compete with Polish Speedway though, British Speedway is just biding it's time and seeing out it's final years before the door finally closes, The game has been up for a long time over here and it's just a case of how many more years can we squeeze out of it. Our Sport is Football hence the reason why everything gets thrown at it from Top level Production to Mega TV contracts to a point where no single company can afford to buy all the rights and it gets shared around, Speedway is never going to get money thrown at it again over here because the interest just isn't around for it so it's also going to be a lower end budget sport for TV companies. Not being offensive here but as a collective group the Poles aren't good at any other sport, They have the odd sports Man or Woman doing very well like Robert Lewandowski or Iga Swiatek but that's it so it makes sense for the Pole's to go all in on Speedway hence the reason why Television companies are ready to splash the Zloty's and go all in on Speedway with mega Production and the Sponsors want in too. Very true, but there are certain fundamental reasons for the continued success... The Poles ensure each rider, (whether good, bad or indifferent), belongs to one team only in each league, and doesnt get shared around on an adhoc basis and whim... Meaning each rider rides for "your team" which can then generate that ultra important sporting tribal following... When you attend a Polish meeting you are attending a proper, bona fide sporting contest, with consequence resulting from the outcome... The Poles will have seen what the UK did from the early 80's, when they ruled the roost, and won't make the same mistakes the promoters have done over here since... When you are sat in a 20,000 crowd in Poland a very high percentage of fans are under 40, never mind 60, with many "kids" in attendance... Keeping that atmosphere that gets created by a large crowd, is key to the continued growth of any sport... Hence the UK's downwords spiral in the last few decades, as many promoters allowed their crowds to drop by their actions.... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted Thursday at 01:49 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 01:49 PM 3 hours ago, mikebv said: Very true, but there are certain fundamental reasons for the continued success... The Poles ensure each rider, (whether good, bad or indifferent), belongs to one team only in each league, and doesnt get shared around on an adhoc basis and whim... Meaning each rider rides for "your team" which can then generate that ultra important sporting tribal following... When you attend a Polish meeting you are attending a proper, bona fide sporting contest, with consequence resulting from the outcome... The Poles will have seen what the UK did from the early 80's, when they ruled the roost, and won't make the same mistakes the promoters have done over here since... When you are sat in a 20,000 crowd in Poland a very high percentage of fans are under 40, never mind 60, with many "kids" in attendance... Keeping that atmosphere that gets created by a large crowd, is key to the continued growth of any sport... Hence the UK's downwords spiral in the last few decades, as many promoters allowed their crowds to drop by their actions.... Fully agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted Friday at 09:46 AM Author Report Share Posted Friday at 09:46 AM For the prohibited lighting of flares at the recent ZG v Grudziadz match the Grudziadz fans have been banned from attending the next 3 away matches the team rides- which are at Torun, Gorzow and Lublin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted Friday at 01:05 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 01:05 PM (edited) Links for both meetings tonight : http://kergel.ucoz.lv/index/live_stream_2/0-12 http://kergel.ucoz.lv/index/live_stream/0-7# Also for Lublin v Rybnik: https://vk.com/video-53550004_456242149 https://vk.com/video-81427162_456239696 Edited Friday at 03:16 PM by stewmac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcone44 Posted Friday at 04:17 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 04:17 PM 6 hours ago, racers and royals said: For the prohibited lighting of flares at the recent ZG v Grudziadz match the Grudziadz fans have been banned from attending the next 3 away matches the team rides- which are at Torun, Gorzow and Lublin. which also costs the 3 clubs revenue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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