arnieg Posted April 19 Report Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, Gambo95 said: Why not make the leagues have some relevance. If the team who tops the league finishes 10 points above the team in 4th, give the team who topped the league a 10 point start in the play offs. It then makes it harder for the top team to loose but gives other teams a chance. Been tried*. Nobody liked it. Lasted one season * not precisely as you suggest, from recollection top 2 got 6/8 point headstart in semis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 It’s definitely worth finishing top as you’re all but guaranteed a bye to the final facing either Lynn or Leicester over two legs with all due respect. Unless of course “commercial reasons” comes in to play again. Without injuries Ipswich will be finishing top that’s a given so it’s most likely Sheffield and Belle Vue battling it out in the other semi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted Sunday at 10:48 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 10:48 AM 2 hours ago, Steve Irving said: It’s definitely worth finishing top as you’re all but guaranteed a bye to the final facing either Lynn or Leicester over two legs with all due respect. Unless of course “commercial reasons” comes in to play again. Without injuries Ipswich will be finishing top that’s a given so it’s most likely Sheffield and Belle Vue battling it out in the other semi. Phil Morris admitted on an early season edition of the No Brakes No Fear podcast that they got the 'commercial decision' badly wrong last year with the Play Offs, so hopefully that won't ever happen again. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted Sunday at 11:38 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 11:38 AM 47 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Phil Morris admitted on an early season edition of the No Brakes No Fear podcast that they got the 'commercial decision' badly wrong last year with the Play Offs, so hopefully that won't ever happen again. That's ok then....😁 I bet they enjoyed the income though...! This year the Aces will probably face Sheffield in the semi without the need for manipulating any extra reduction in credibility, (IE no more than obviously already "naturally" exists in UK Speedway)... Although, that said, maybe this year if Leicester finish fourth and KL fifth, it may be better to have an Ipswich v KL semi? 😁 "In the interest of Speedway" obviously.... 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted Sunday at 04:24 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 04:24 PM The team that finishes top should be champions. The top four at the end of the season should then contest a semi and then final for the knockout cup so there’s still the target of a top four place to aim for. That would also eliminate the farce of one club getting a bye and riding less cup fixtures than everyone else. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted Sunday at 06:31 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 06:31 PM On 4/19/2025 at 2:04 PM, Gambo95 said: Why not make the leagues have some relevance. If the team who tops the league finishes 10 points above the team in 4th, give the team who topped the league a 10 point start in the play offs. It then makes it harder for the top team to loose but gives other teams a chance. On 4/19/2025 at 3:31 PM, arnieg said: Been tried*. Nobody liked it. Lasted one season * not precisely as you suggest, from recollection top 2 got 6/8 point headstart in semis. I can't remember exactly how it worked, but yeah there was a time when teams got an advantage in the play-offs due to league positions. Was it not 2nd vs 5th (home leg only) Then 3rd vs 4th (home leg only) Then 2 winners in the semi final, highest place team at home. Then a two-legged final against the team that finished first? Could also have (or as well as) been top 2 to semi finals, 3rd vs 6th & 4th vs 5th home legs only / points advantage. I feel like that was changed, because the team finishing top had a long wait for the final, when others were racing. I'm sure the season(s) they had a points advantage to the higher placed team, it only occurred in the semi finals. The finals have always been even between both teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted Sunday at 10:15 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 10:15 PM 3 hours ago, szkocjasid said: I can't remember exactly how it worked, but yeah there was a time when teams got an advantage in the play-offs due to league positions. Was it not 2nd vs 5th (home leg only) Then 3rd vs 4th (home leg only) Then 2 winners in the semi final, highest place team at home. Then a two-legged final against the team that finished first? Could also have (or as well as) been top 2 to semi finals, 3rd vs 6th & 4th vs 5th home legs only / points advantage. I feel like that was changed, because the team finishing top had a long wait for the final, when others were racing. I'm sure the season(s) they had a points advantage to the higher placed team, it only occurred in the semi finals. The finals have always been even between both teams. You make it sound so simple 🤪 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted Monday at 08:48 AM Report Share Posted Monday at 08:48 AM They need to add in relegation imo. I know, I know, teams in champ can’t afford the jump but what other sport can pick and choose what league they are in? Even this sports doesn’t do it apart from British speedway. If Poole made the jump, how big would the financial implications be? That’s a genuine question if anyone knows, I’m not being sarcastic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedwaySlider72 Posted Monday at 08:50 AM Report Share Posted Monday at 08:50 AM 1 minute ago, ShanoXtra said: They need to add in relegation imo. I know, I know, teams in champ can’t afford the jump but what other sport can pick and choose what league they are in? Even this sports doesn’t do it apart from British speedway. If Poole made the jump, how big would the financial implications be? That’s a genuine question if anyone knows, I’m not being sarcastic! Every major American sport? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted Monday at 11:20 AM Report Share Posted Monday at 11:20 AM When 14 premier league football clubs are in american ownership that will be the end of promotion/relegation, gets better and better for non league football haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted Monday at 11:36 AM Report Share Posted Monday at 11:36 AM 2 hours ago, ShanoXtra said: They need to add in relegation imo. I know, I know, teams in champ can’t afford the jump but what other sport can pick and choose what league they are in? Even this sports doesn’t do it apart from British speedway. If Poole made the jump, how big would the financial implications be? That’s a genuine question if anyone knows, I’m not being sarcastic! When Poole moved down they said they would save 30%. I don't know if it is more or less now. But whenever they get asked about moving up they just say that the club can't afford it and isn't sustainable. Thing is in the Championship you just can't see Poole being lower than 5th, unless they had a lot of bad luck in a season. Whereas in the Prem it is a bit harder to consistently be in the top 4 every season. Unless you have to have a lot of money to achieve that. Glasgow would be able to afford it. So if anyone is to be 'promoted' to the Prem it would have to be them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted Monday at 12:15 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 12:15 PM 3 hours ago, ShanoXtra said: They need to add in relegation imo. I know, I know, teams in champ can’t afford the jump but what other sport can pick and choose what league they are in? Even this sports doesn’t do it apart from British speedway. If Poole made the jump, how big would the financial implications be? That’s a genuine question if anyone knows, I’m not being sarcastic! That would only work if teams wanted to get promoted. In every sport being in the top division should be the aim for all. Whether it's costs involved or race nights, clubs not owning their own stadiums, there's many barriers to stop this happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted Monday at 03:39 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 03:39 PM 3 hours ago, szkocjasid said: That would only work if teams wanted to get promoted. In every sport being in the top division should be the aim for all. Whether it's costs involved or race nights, clubs not owning their own stadiums, there's many barriers to stop this happening. You can add using the same riders regardless of what league you are in too... You could guest for some other team and prevent your own team from getting promoted..😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted Monday at 06:25 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 06:25 PM 2 hours ago, mikebv said: You can add using the same riders regardless of what league you are in too... You could guest for some other team and prevent your own team from getting promoted..😁 That is the other problem, we simply don't have enough riders to have a full squad for all prem and champ teams I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted Monday at 06:29 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 06:29 PM 9 hours ago, SpeedwaySlider72 said: Every major American sport? That could be a fair point! I genuinely have no interest in any 'American sports' apart from when I lived in NYC and watched the Knicks a few times! America is a different world in all walks of life 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted Monday at 06:51 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 06:51 PM On 4/17/2025 at 6:22 PM, 89buttons said: In each of the last two seasons you’ve used Mulford and Bailey at RS, you also sent for young Brit Connor mountain for a hotdog when he was doing a solid job to bring in Tate Zischke. i have no problem with these things but you carry on with this rhetoric of “belle vue are saints” and everyone else are cheats and evil especially Ipswich and it’s just so bloody tiresome, and then tell everyone else they’re trolls! Tate for mountain granted but Bailey quit on us so had to replace him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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