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Glasgow Tigers Vs Poole Pirates 6/6/25


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7 hours ago, ragdoll64 said:

Honestly TSV, I wouldn’t waste your time if  I were you……😉

Listen to your little friend with the perverted wink emoji, @TracksideView.

The adults have finished discussing the topic of interacting with fans, so you can now speak.

”sOmEoNe gIvE HiM a hUg”.😂 Absolute child like behaviour.

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On 6/9/2025 at 10:25 PM, tyretrax said:

He loves kicking riders when they're down.

That’s the second time in two weeks you’ve quoted me and said this.

1. Stop following me around, you little creep.

2. It’s called having standards son. Something you’d have no idea about.😂

On 6/9/2025 at 10:32 PM, tyretrax said:

How childish is that. :icon_smile_clown:

Another low IQ pleb.😂

I share my observations from the meeting and two members engage in constructive discussion, but one member - @TracksideView - asks if I need a cuddle, but it’s me who is childish?

Tell me you’re unintelligent without telling me you’re unintelligent.😂

 

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36 minutes ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

That’s the second time in two weeks you’ve quoted me and said this.

1. Stop following me around, you little creep.

2. It’s called having standards son. Something you’d have no idea about.😂

Another low IQ pleb.😂

I share my observations from the meeting and two members engage in constructive discussion, but one member - @TracksideView - asks if I need a cuddle, but it’s me who is childish?

Tell me you’re unintelligent without telling me you’re unintelligent.😂

 

Maybe a group hug will work better this time, 2 days later and you still seem very uptight 

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I've watched the BSN coverage of this meeting and must say it was very worthwhile as you get a different perspective and learn things that you don't see or hear from watching at the stadium.

A few examples:

Leon Flint and his bike were caked in wet shale after his first two rides. There was what appeared to be the equivalent of at least two bucketloads in a heap next to his bike in the pits. Ironically, this thread was started by shaleshifter!

Leon Flint used the same set-up as his last meeting at Ashfield when he scored a 15 point maximum. Despite this, his bike felt flat and things weren't helped by the amount of shale caking him and his bike.

He changed bike for his 3rd and 4th ride and it felt more comfortable to ride.

Leon Flint was clearly gutted.

Other Glasgow riders also had issues.

This isn't a criticism of the track staff but if you remember there were some heavy showers that week.

i've also been catching up with the Speedway Star who continue to provide accurate Calculated Match Averages (CMA) which include Championship, BSN Series and Knock-out Cup matches. As at 6 June 2025 Leon Flint's average was 8.00 with a Home average of 10.67 and Away average of 6.80. Dan Thompson's CMA was 10.00; Chris Harris 9.21 and Kyle Howarth 8.97.

Just thought this would be of interest compared to some of the other posts that have appeared.

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4 hours ago, SharpenRake said:

I've watched the BSN coverage of this meeting and must say it was very worthwhile as you get a different perspective and learn things that you don't see or hear from watching at the stadium.

A few examples:

Leon Flint and his bike were caked in wet shale after his first two rides. There was what appeared to be the equivalent of at least two bucketloads in a heap next to his bike in the pits. Ironically, this thread was started by shaleshifter!

Leon Flint used the same set-up as his last meeting at Ashfield when he scored a 15 point maximum. Despite this, his bike felt flat and things weren't helped by the amount of shale caking him and his bike.

He changed bike for his 3rd and 4th ride and it felt more comfortable to ride.

Leon Flint was clearly gutted.

Other Glasgow riders also had issues.

This isn't a criticism of the track staff but if you remember there were some heavy showers that week.

i've also been catching up with the Speedway Star who continue to provide accurate Calculated Match Averages (CMA) which include Championship, BSN Series and Knock-out Cup matches. As at 6 June 2025 Leon Flint's average was 8.00 with a Home average of 10.67 and Away average of 6.80. Dan Thompson's CMA was 10.00; Chris Harris 9.21 and Kyle Howarth 8.97.

Just thought this would be of interest compared to some of the other posts that have appeared.

If you aren’t blaming the track staff, what point are you trying to make?

Also, I suggest you proof-read your data because it’s incorrect. We’ve contested four home fixtures this season, within which Flint scored 4+2, 8+1, 14+1 and 5+1. That does not generate a home average of 10.67; it’s closer to 7.70 or 8.50 if you include bonus points.

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3 hours ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

Also, I suggest you proof-read your data because it’s incorrect. We’ve contested four home fixtures this season, within which Flint scored 4+2, 8+1, 14+1 and 5+1. That does not generate a home average of 10.67; it’s closer to 7.70 or 8.50 if you include bonus points.

I suggest you read what I typed. The Speedway Star figures only include Championship, BSN Series and Knock-out Cup matches and for, consistency over the years, include bonus points.

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6 hours ago, SharpenRake said:

I suggest you read what I typed. The Speedway Star figures only include Championship, BSN Series and Knock-out Cup matches and for, consistency over the years, include bonus points.

No, no, no. Don’t hide behind ”the Speedway Star said”. In no version of this universe is Leon Flint’s home average near 9, never mind 10. You’re wrong.

Bonus points are paid figures that are used informally in reporting, but aren’t official race points and bear no impact on the match scores, nor a rider’s average. I can only assume your reference to them is an attempt at clutching at straws for Flint.

Which is why I’ll once again ask, since you avoided it: if you’re not blaming the track staff, what exactly is your point?

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47 minutes ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

No, no, no. Don’t hide behind ”the Speedway Star said”. In no version of this universe is Leon Flint’s home average near 9, never mind 10. You’re wrong.

Bonus points are paid figures that are used informally in reporting, but aren’t official race points and bear no impact on the match scores, nor a rider’s average. I can only assume your reference to them is an attempt at clutching at straws for Flint.

Which is why I’ll once again ask, since you avoided it: if you’re not blaming the track staff, what exactly is your point?

In this latest 'exchange' is there some confusion between CMAs and GSAs as to how good/bad a rider might be?

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20 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said:

In this latest 'exchange' is there some confusion between CMAs and GSAs as to how good/bad a rider might be?

I don’t think so mate; he’s just dancing around reality.

Let’s be honest, he’s told us he’s watched the meeting back and given us some incredibly insightful observations which include, but aren’t limited to, ”Leon Flint and his bike were caked in shale”, ”Leon Flint was gutted” and ”remember there were heavy showers that week”.

That’s why I’ve asked him, if he isn’t blaming the track staff, then what exactly is his point?

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Of course CMAs include bonus points and they have going back 50 plus years. Bonus points are not meaningless as you can't get one without beating an opponent, therefore in some respects and in some contexts can be regarded as a better measure than GSAs of a rider's worth to his team.

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27 minutes ago, arnieg said:

Of course CMAs include bonus points and they have going back 50 plus years. Bonus points are not meaningless as you can't get one without beating an opponent, therefore in some respects and in some contexts can be regarded as a better measure than GSAs of a rider's worth to his team.

No one said bonus points are meaningless or aren’t included in CMAs.

Can we cut out all this nonsense and get back to the original point?

He said Flint had a home average of 10.67 which is complete fabrication. He couldn’t even get his maximum correct; it was paid, not full.

A post littered with incorrect information and odd observations, like his bike being dirty and him being gutted.

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