Arthur54 Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 42 minutes ago, Trackrat said: Teaching concrete racing. Your pleased with the signing then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Arthur54 said: Your pleased with the signing then I expect he is over the moon the best young British talents are going to Poole, he will have to put up with us challenging for honours. It must drive him up the wall. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 2 hours ago, foreverblue said: I expect he is over the moon the best young British talents are going to Poole, he will have to put up with us challenging for honours. It must drive him up the wall. No, big girls don’t cry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 2 hours ago, Arthur54 said: Your pleased with the signing then Don’t quote me cry baby. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 6 hours ago, YeOldPitGate said: I think a lot of that has to do with them being slung into the Prem also from the get go I can only remember Rob Lambert and Joe Screen being good enough from the start in the top league, the likes of Havelock, Loram, Dugard, Silver came up through the old second division for a couple of years before moving up. The problem you have is unless you are a top 10% talent which Bob and Joe both are/were you get on a bad run and have confidence smashed where if you can end up a big fish in a smaller pond for a couple of years whilst training up you can then move up with more confidence things will work out. I've never seen Cairns ride but given he pretty much doubled his average in year one that's all anyone can ask of the lad, but I do agree with this next crop of youngsters smashing their confidence early doors is not the way to go. Mark Loram rode in the top league in 1987 averaging over 5 as a 16 year old Mark then dropped down for 2 seasons before becoming Kings Lynn number 1 in 1990 averaging almost 8 Screen started in 1989 at 17 and for 2 seasons averaged mid 6 Screen was excellent motorcyclist but was never really as good as Loram 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Trackrat said: Don’t quote me cry baby. Still talking rubbish i see 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Arthur54 said: Still talking rubbish i see 😂 Still crying I see, baby. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Gavan said: Mark Loram rode in the top league in 1987 averaging over 5 as a 16 year old Mark then dropped down for 2 seasons before becoming Kings Lynn number 1 in 1990 averaging almost 8 Screen started in 1989 at 17 and for 2 seasons averaged mid 6 Screen was excellent motorcyclist but was never really as good as Loram They were very good friends and Screen tried to help as much as he could so Mark would win the world title. Mark was so good to watch in his prime and a top bloke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Gavan said: Mark Loram rode in the top league in 1987 averaging over 5 as a 16 year old Mark then dropped down for 2 seasons before becoming Kings Lynn number 1 in 1990 averaging almost 8 Screen started in 1989 at 17 and for 2 seasons averaged mid 6 Screen was excellent motorcyclist but was never really as good as Loram Remind me who he was racing for in 2000 when he became world champion?😇 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Arthur54 said: Still talking rubbish i see 😂 Picture back up soon 😂😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 25 minutes ago, Gavan said: Screen started in 1989 at 17 and for 2 seasons averaged mid 6 Screen was excellent motorcyclist but was never really as good as Loram Screen went straight into the top-flight with Belle Vue as a 16-year-old in 1989. I'd rate him better than Loram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 27 minutes ago, Gavan said: Mark Loram rode in the top league in 1987 averaging over 5 as a 16 year old Mark then dropped down for 2 seasons before becoming Kings Lynn number 1 in 1990 averaging almost 8 Screen started in 1989 at 17 and for 2 seasons averaged mid 6 Screen was excellent motorcyclist but was never really as good as Loram My memory is a bit hazy on this Gavan as I stopped going in 1992 but I thought Mark started with Hackney in the old national league and then Lynn signed him as a reserve in the Bill Barker days poss 89 or 1990 I haven't googled and as it's nigh on 35 year ago I could well be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 41 minutes ago, Gavan said: Mark Loram rode in the top league in 1987 averaging over 5 as a 16 year old Mark then dropped down for 2 seasons before becoming Kings Lynn number 1 in 1990 averaging almost 8 Screen started in 1989 at 17 and for 2 seasons averaged mid 6 Screen was excellent motorcyclist but was never really as good as Loram Marks first 3 full seasons were not in the Top League they were in the National League (2 for Hackney 1 for Ipswich) couple of guest meetings in Top League in these seasons.Kings Lynn were his first full season Top League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Marks first 3 full seasons were not in the Top League they were in the National League (2 for Hackney 1 for Ipswich) couple of guest meetings in Top League in these seasons.Kings Lynn were his first full season Top League. No you are wrong … Mark rode for Hackney in the top league in 1987 Hackney dropped down in 1988 and Mark dropped down with them In 1989 the Hackney promotion moved to Ipswich and Mark Chris and Moggo went as well Mark then moved to Kings Lynn in 1990 as a reserve … we went to his first meeting at home to Reading where Mark top scored with 19 I believe from 7 rides …. The only Reading rider to beat him was their new number 7…. Todd Wiltshire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 31 minutes ago, PotteringAround said: Screen went straight into the top-flight with Belle Vue as a 16-year-old in 1989. I'd rate him better than Loram. You are entitled to your opinion and I’m entitled to disagree Nothing against Joe he was supreme to watch and I would cheer for him every race at those early 1990’s British , commonwealth and overseas finals an awesome rider The record books will show he wasn’t quite at Lorams level and it could be argued he should have achieved more We was at Odsal in 1992 and how victory against a world class field in the riders championship was amazing to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 15 minutes ago, Gavan said: No you are wrong … Mark rode for Hackney in the top league in 1987 Hackney dropped down in 1988 and Mark dropped down with them In 1989 the Hackney promotion moved to Ipswich and Mark Chris and Moggo went as well Mark then moved to Kings Lynn in 1990 as a reserve … we went to his first meeting at home to Reading where Mark top scored with 19 I believe from 7 rides …. The only Reading rider to beat him was their new number 7…. Todd Wiltshire Apologies you are correct.Misread part of your Post.🤗 Edited 7 hours ago by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveArena Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago Loram was better than Screen easy. Loram was World Champ and Screen never even got close. Screen was not disciplined enough to fulfil his potential. On the piss too much and eating crap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 4 hours ago, Neila said: Regarding the young riders, a lot of teams have a NDL team or a junior team being ran in the Northern or midland junior league, thus helping local youngsters start and progress through the levels of the sport. But it appears Poole don't have this, then use ££s to encourage the youngsters to join them. Even when Poole put the youngsters meeting on last season Paul starke was riding in the event 🤔 Because 4 riders pulled out on the day before and day of the meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 11 hours ago, Wee Eck said: I think Cooper needs to have some of the weight of expectation lifted off his young shoulders. Too many lads were going to be a superstar the minute they hit 16. Like Joe Haines 20 years ago or more recently Kyle Bickley, Archie Freeman, Ashton Boughen, even Will Cairns. At 15/16 they are still growing, some up the way, some round the way, some both, and body size and shape can be critical. I’m hopeful he’ll do exceptionally well and, certainly for his first year at this level, he’s going to the team with arguably the best manager and the Poole fans will get behind him as they do all the triers. I think joining a club like Poole will always increase expectations, especially in the case of Cairns who was announced half a season before he could ride. If Rushen is planning to ride in the Prem already, I'd suggest the expectations won't get to him. I guess if a rider wanted a no pressure first season, best join the perennial strugglers at the bottom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, Gavan said: You are entitled to your opinion and I’m entitled to disagree When did I say you weren't entitled to disagree? I totally respect your right to be wrong. (even about Screen's age). I don't count Loram as a genuine world champion. Won the world title without winning a single G.P. in a year when there were only 6 rounds with a silly format which mainly required finishing 2nd in a couple of races. I rate Screen as a far more naturally talented rider who could have won real world titles with a little more dedication. Edited 5 hours ago by PotteringAround Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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