TTT Posted Thursday at 01:19 PM Author Report Share Posted Thursday at 01:19 PM 23 hours ago, RoundTheBoards said: Tungate is 35, Wright 37, and Zagar 42. Belle Vue go mainly for young riders. I can see them going for one mid-30s rider with experience in the middle-order, but none of those three. All proven scorers around the NSS though. Tried and Tested in a watered down League could be the way to go instead of taking a punt on Newcomers that may struggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted Thursday at 01:20 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 01:20 PM 14 minutes ago, TheTopDrawer said: LOL. That's exactly what they are. A testimonial is granted for someone who has been an asset of a club for 10 years. When a rider is tranferred they are entitled to a percentage of the transfer fee for each year they have been an asset. Thus to compensate someone who hasn't moved, for the years of missing out on a percentage transfer fee, they got a testimonial. I understood the asset system - along with loan fees - had been dispensed with? And testimonials were considered for riders that have been in British speedway for 10 years? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted Thursday at 06:31 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 06:31 PM 5 hours ago, TheTopDrawer said: LOL. That's exactly what they are. A testimonial is granted for someone who has been an asset of a club for 10 years. When a rider is tranferred they are entitled to a percentage of the transfer fee for each year they have been an asset. Thus to compensate someone who hasn't moved, for the years of missing out on a percentage transfer fee, they got a testimonial. Testimonials are now given to any rider who has put 10 years into British Speedway and that's not even 10 consecutive years... or even full seasons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTheBoards Posted Thursday at 06:52 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 06:52 PM (edited) 5 hours ago, TheTopDrawer said: LOL. That's exactly what they are. A testimonial is granted for someone who has been an asset of a club for 10 years. When a rider is tranferred they are entitled to a percentage of the transfer fee for each year they have been an asset. Thus to compensate someone who hasn't moved, for the years of missing out on a percentage transfer fee, they got a testimonial. Exactly right. When we had the asset system, riders were given a percentage of the transfer fee. I think 2.5% of the fee for each year they had been attached to the club. (Although it may have been 5% for the first year and then 2.5% for subsequent years up to a maximum of 25% or 27.5% - someone will remember). Testimonials were compensation for a rider who had stayed an asset of a club for 10 years, and had therefore never had a cut of any transfer fee. It was also possible to be transferred to another club, but refuse a cut of the transfer fee, in which case the years of service continued to build up towards a testimonial. With the asset system seeming to have bitten the dust now, I guess Testimonials will also disappear. Someone will know the cut of the transfer fee. I think it was 5% for the first year, and 2.5% for every other year up to 10 years. Edited Thursday at 06:54 PM by RoundTheBoards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted yesterday at 09:30 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:30 AM (edited) 14 hours ago, IainB said: Testimonials are now given to any rider who has put 10 years into British Speedway and that's not even 10 consecutive years... or even full seasons! Or even not turned up when they should have...😄 Edited yesterday at 09:31 AM by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago On 12/17/2025 at 1:01 PM, TTT said: This team would be unbeatable around the NSS imo. 1. B. Kurtz 8.97 2. R. Tungate 5.89 3. C. Wright 6.27 3. Z. Cook 6.20 5. M. Zagar 6.46 6. T. Zischke 3.00 7. J. Mulford (RS) = 36.79 A friend in Poland has told me that Kurtz is very unlikely to ride in Britain next year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 7 minutes ago, BluPanther said: A friend in Poland has told me that Kurtz is very unlikely to ride in Britain next year... You do have to consider the logistics for these top riders... Having to have machines and mechanics over here, and also just to get here themselves, when they could live in Poland and ride at the weekend there, Sweden on Tuesday, and go into Denmark on Wednesday, and back across the sea into Poland ready for the weekend.. And, over here, all to ride against much lesser opponents than they would find in Sweden and Poland, (and looking at Denmark's level of signings for next year, Denmark too)... They will want to go head to head against the best as often as possible as it keeps themselves sharp.. And, without the TV money coming in, it would be quite conceivable that their pay rates over here will also be "different" next season, from the recent seasons just gone... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 6 minutes ago, mikebv said: You do have to consider the logistics for these top riders... Having to have machines and mechanics over here, and also just to get here themselves, when they could live in Poland and ride at the weekend there, Sweden on Tuesday, and go into Denmark on Wednesday, and back across the sea into Poland ready for the weekend.. And, over here, all to ride against much lesser opponents than they would find in Sweden and Poland, (and looking at Denmark's level of signings for next year, Denmark too)... They will want to go head to head against the best as often as possible as it keeps themselves sharp.. And, without the TV money coming in, it would be quite conceivable that their pay rates over here will also be "different" next season, from the recent seasons just gone... Yes all that but to counter... easier rides in the UK, more race wins available, confidence higher, less pressure, more familiar surroundings. With many saying that a lot about being successful in sport is what's going on in your head, these things can't be ignored. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 26 minutes ago, IainB said: Yes all that but to counter... easier rides in the UK, more race wins available, confidence higher, less pressure, more familiar surroundings. With many saying that a lot about being successful in sport is what's going on in your head, these things can't be ignored. Jason Doyle in his Speedway Star inteview said... "I need to be racing against the top boys, and it doesn't look like that will be the case in Britain for next season"... Not sure beating the Speedway equivalent of "makeweights" each night over here will appeal to too many at the very top of their trade... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, mikebv said: Jason Doyle in his Speedway Star inteview said... "I need to be racing against the top boys, and it doesn't look like that will be the case in Britain for next season"... Not sure beating the Speedway equivalent of "makeweights" each night over here will appeal to too many at the very top of their trade... I might understand that more of Doyle was still a 9+ rider, but now he dropped below 8, feel this could be a good level for him to get back to winning ways? Also does dropping down a league in Poland count as racing the top boys? Edited 9 hours ago by szkocjasid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 2 hours ago, BluPanther said: A friend in Poland has told me that Kurtz is very unlikely to ride in Britain next year... While not ideal to lose such a great rider, as long as Belle Vue had Bewley, may help them build a team under the 37 limit without their 2 superstars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 14 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: I might understand that more of Doyle was still a 9+ rider, but now he dropped below 8, feel this could be a good level for him to get back to winning ways? Also does dropping down a league in Poland count as racing the top boys? Sweden and Denmark were more his reference I would think.. And, looking at the Danish league next season it does look like they are trying to make a play for 2027 to see if they can attract those riders that have only one league to ride in, outside Poland, come the time.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 3 hours ago, BluPanther said: A friend in Poland has told me that Kurtz is very unlikely to ride in Britain next year... Doesn’t he have to factor in he needs a visa to live here? he has a house in Warrington with his girlfriend/wife, so would of said until he gets citizenship he has no choice but to ride here Edited 8 hours ago by THE DEAN MACHINE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 30 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Doesn’t he have to factor in he needs a visa to live here? he has a house in Warrington with his girlfriend/wife, so would of said until he gets citizenship he has no choice but to ride here I think, as an Australian, he’s allowed up to 180 days in UK without a visa. He would, of course, need a work visa if he was riding in UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent10 Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 30 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Doesn’t he have to factor in he needs a visa to live here? he has a house in Warrington with his girlfriend/wife, so would of said until he gets citizenship he has no choice but to ride here Exactly what people are missing here, most Australians have family here with them, kids in school etc and they need a English visa so have to work here, apparently visa is not easy to get in Poland and school would not be English I imagine for the kids! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 4 hours ago, BluPanther said: A friend in Poland has told me that Kurtz is very unlikely to ride in Britain next year... Better get a new friend. He tells you lies 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 7 hours ago, szkocjasid said: While not ideal to lose such a great rider, as long as Belle Vue had Bewley, may help them build a team under the 37 limit without their 2 superstars? Thing is reading between the lines it looked like the plan was Bewley to Ipswich and Belle Vue retaining Kurtz in 2026 if Belle Vue end up retaining Dan it could leave Ippo having to attempt at some kind of strength in depth approach whatever that may look like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarBoy Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 9 minutes ago, YeOldPitGate said: Thing is reading between the lines it looked like the plan was Bewley to Ipswich and Belle Vue retaining Kurtz in 2026 if Belle Vue end up retaining Dan it could leave Ippo having to attempt at some kind of strength in depth approach whatever that may look like. 1. Brennan - 7.23 (7.05) 2. King - 6.67 (6.50) 3. Rew - 6.19 4. Klindt - 6.46 5. Lawson - 7.00 (6.83) 6. Jenkins - 3.46 7. Edwards - RS Total - 37.01 (36.49) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 24 minutes ago, StarBoy said: 1. Brennan - 7.23 (7.05) 2. King - 6.67 (6.50) 3. Rew - 6.19 4. Klindt - 6.46 5. Lawson - 7.00 (6.83) 6. Jenkins - 3.46 7. Edwards - RS Total - 37.01 (36.49) Can’t see that side bringing the punters in. Hasn’t Lawson already said he is staying at Poole? Edited 1 hour ago by E I Addio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin bass Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 19 minutes ago, E I Addio said: Can’t see that side bringing the punters in. Hasn’t Lawson already said he is staying at Poole? Poole are in a different league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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