RoundTheBoards Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 2 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: Since when has Musielak been a 'real' No1?? In any decent side he's only ever been 2nd or 3rd heatleader at best. When was the last time & how often have King's Lynn had a Holder, Kurtz, Bewley, Doyle, Sayfutdinov type 'REAL' No1?? You see the "8.69" which I quoted next to Musielak's name? That's called a "Calculated Match Average". It's a statistic used in Speedway, which represents a rider's most recent form. It repesents the average number of points that rider scored per 4 races. It shows that Musielak joined KL at an out-and-out No.1 who had scored 8.69 out of every 12 points available to him. A higher figure than "REAL" No.1s Bewley and Kurtz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 51 minutes ago, TTT said: Doubt it, Numbers game on a 36.00 Limit will cause a lot of problems. I'm not sure on Bednar (5.00 Average?) but I'm certain of the other five tbh. 1. J. Kvech 6.91 (No brainer if Jan wants to return) 2. ? 3. C. Harris 6.53 (Mr. Entertainment) 4. N. Klindt 6.46 (Testimonial Year @ King's Lynn) 5. N-K. Iversen 6.71 (Always in a Buster Chapman 1-7) 6. ? 7. C. Rushen (RS) Only leaves 9.39 so Lawson (6.82 after 2.5% British Reduction) would've had to make way as the minimum GSA for a Premiership place is 3.00 I'll be absolutely gobsmacked if its not 36 for the top five. We shall see. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumsie Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 15 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: I'll be absolutely gobsmacked if its not 36 for the top five. We shall see. It certainly won't be for the top six, the figures don't add up. 36 for the top five is sensible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted November 3 Author Report Share Posted November 3 3 minutes ago, Mumsie said: It certainly won't be for the top six, the figures don't add up. 36 for the top five is sensible. They do add up if we're going to see mass exits from riders on 8+ GSA's though. All 6 Teams will need a fair share of Riders on 6.00 - 7.00 GSA's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 1 hour ago, RoundTheBoards said: You see the "8.69" which I quoted next to Musielak's name? That's called a "Calculated Match Average". It's a statistic used in Speedway, which represents a rider's most recent form. It repesents the average number of points that rider scored per 4 races. It shows that Musielak joined KL at an out-and-out No.1 who had scored 8.69 out of every 12 points available to him. A higher figure than "REAL" No.1s Bewley and Kurtz. And there lies the problem when looking at statistics & cherry picking what suits the agenda. Kurtz & Bewley rode for the same team & taking points off each other home & away in heats 13 & 15. Musielak was unchallenged in a poor King's Lynn team. For King's Lynn in 2024 Musielak only achieved 6.97 from he 5 meetings. Musielak achieved the 8.69 at Sheffield as 2nd heatleader behind Jack Holder. Musielak is not, & never has been a "REAL" No1. "REAL" No1s are consistent season in, season out, not just for a statistical rolling average &/or a single season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 (edited) 2 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: And there lies the problem when looking at statistics & cherry picking what suits the agenda. Kurtz & Bewley rode for the same team & taking points off each other home & away in heats 13 & 15. Musielak was unchallenged in a poor King's Lynn team. For King's Lynn in 2024 Musielak only achieved 6.97 from he 5 meetings. Musielak achieved the 8.69 at Sheffield as 2nd heatleader behind Jack Holder. Musielak is not, & never has been a "REAL" No1. "REAL" No1s are consistent season in, season out, not just for a statistical rolling average &/or a single season. But if Kurtz & Bewley were taking points off each other (lowering their average), would not Holder & Musielak have been doing the same when Tobiasz averaged 8.69? In fact if Musielak was behind Holder in most heat 13s / 15s, does that not make his 8.69 average even more impressive? Which would mean Lynn signed a "real number 1" in 2024. Yes he was poor & disappeared, but that doesn't mean Lynn didn't sign a number 1. Edited November 3 by szkocjasid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheDeepStuff Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 Fricke incoming, that’s a big chunk of the 36 points used up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheDeepStuff Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 (edited) Also that’s a big change of tact from last season, will out an end to a 6 pointer at reserve that’s for sure Edited November 3 by InTheDeepStuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 8 hours ago, InTheDeepStuff said: Fricke incoming, that’s a big chunk of the 36 points used up Wouldn’t have thought a single Lynn supporter would be at all bothered with that. Maybe I’m wrong but I’d say the majority if not all, would be over the moon to sign up a genuine class number 1 and the leagues best rider this season just gone. Wasn’t just the heavy points he scored either, it was the way he scored them. Seemed very entertaining which I’m sure the Leicester fans will verify. Fricke would give the club and supporters a massive lift. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 If King's Lynn can get Fricke + Kvech & Cook back that's a decent top 3. Is it certain Fricke is leaving Leicester though?? Would be terrible for them & Leicester has served Fricke well too, why change what isn't broken?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 8 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: If King's Lynn can get Fricke + Kvech & Cook back that's a decent top 3. Is it certain Fricke is leaving Leicester though?? Would be terrible for them & Leicester has served Fricke well too, why change what isn't broken?? maybe he thinks a change of track will help him in the GPs? No idea though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted November 4 Author Report Share Posted November 4 Fricke will be a big signing but I also don't see how King's Lynn can build a competitive side around him for 2026........Unless it's 36.00 for the Top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 Best "realistic" team I can come up with if it's a 36 limit with Fricke Max Fricke - 9.89 Jan Kvech - 6.91 Chris Harris - 6.53 Adam Bedna - 5.00 Jonas Jeppesen - 4.34 Francis Gusts - 3.00 Luke Harrison - RS Total - 35.67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 it will be 36 for the top 5 and then two brits at reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Help Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 38 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: Best "realistic" team I can come up with if it's a 36 limit with Fricke Max Fricke - 9.89 Jan Kvech - 6.91 Chris Harris - 6.53 Adam Bedna - 5.00 Jonas Jeppesen - 4.34 Francis Gusts - 3.00 Luke Harrison - RS Total - 35.67 Nowt wrong with that side at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheDeepStuff Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 2 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: If King's Lynn can get Fricke + Kvech & Cook back that's a decent top 3. Is it certain Fricke is leaving Leicester though?? Would be terrible for them & Leicester has served Fricke well too, why change what isn't broken?? He’s definitely not at Leicester (Douglas & Masters at 1 and 5 for them) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 Max Fricke - 9.89 Jan Kvech - 6.91 Chris Harris - 6.53 Nicolai Klindt - 6.46 Maciej Janowski - 6.06 Mulford Rushen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted November 4 Author Report Share Posted November 4 (edited) I know this is a King's Lynn thread but I just don't see it being 36.00 for the Top 5 only because it makes no sense for Leicester and Max to part ways. 36.00 for a Top 5, Leicester could've easily built around Max. 1. M. Fricke 9.89 2. K. Howarth 5.00 3. L. Becker 6.88 4. R. Lawson 6.82 5. S. Masters 7.28 or 1. M. Fricke 9.89 2. K. Howarth 5.00 3. L. Becker 6.88 or R. Lawson 6.82 4. N. Morris 5.89 or D. Thompson 5.87 5. R. Douglas 8.12 Edited November 4 by TTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 24 minutes ago, TTT said: I know this is a King's Lynn thread but I just don't see it being 36.00 for the Top 5 only because it makes no sense for Leicester and Max to part ways. 36.00 for a Top 5, Leicester could've easily built around Max. 1. M. Fricke 9.89 2. K. Howarth 5.00 3. L. Becker 6.88 4. R. Lawson 6.82 5. S. Masters 7.28 or 1. M. Fricke 9.89 2. K. Howarth 5.00 3. L. Becker 6.88 or R. Lawson 6.82 4. N. Morris 5.89 or D. Thompson 5.87 5. R. Douglas 8.12 You can only build around someone if they want to ride for you. Perhaps Fricke has decided on pastures new or perhaps it’s misinformed speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted November 4 Author Report Share Posted November 4 4 minutes ago, JamesB said: You can only build around someone if they want to ride for you. Perhaps Fricke has decided on pastures new or perhaps it’s misinformed speculation. Don't see any reason why he'd want to leave especially knowing that he's just had his best ever UK season statistically at Leicester. Only thing that makes sense to me is Stewart Dickson not being able to build a title challenging 1-6 using Max @ No.1 within a 36.00 Limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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