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Can only assume the pre AGM they had at the end of September ironed out a lot of unknowns as teams in both leagues have been pressing on with team building, with the actual AGM that was scheduled for November being more of a rubber stamp event and possibly (hopefully) clarity on possible TV deal 

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On 10/17/2026 at 7:06 PM, SteveLyric2 said:

Just for clarity in your opinion, who are the 'new thinking, ambitious and visionary' promoters?

Rather than by individual, I'll list the clubs because in many cases its down to more than one individual. Also in Alphabetical order and by a few categories. 
1. Definite.
Belle Vue, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Ipswich, Leicester, Northampton, 
2. Could be's 
Berwick, Kings Lynn, Redcar, 
3, The rest,
Either happy where they are with an I'm all right jack attitude or carrying doubts over the viability of running a team on a full time basis other than as an affordable hobby. 
 

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2 hours ago, 1 valve said:

Rather than by individual, I'll list the clubs because in many cases its down to more than one individual. Also in Alphabetical order and by a few categories. 
1. Definite.
Belle Vue, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Ipswich, Leicester, Northampton, 
2. Could be's 
Berwick, Kings Lynn, Redcar, 
3, The rest,
Either happy where they are with an I'm all right jack attitude or carrying doubts over the viability of running a team on a full time basis other than as an affordable hobby. 
 

Wow! I almost spat my coffee out when reading that!!

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25 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said:

Wow! I almost spat my coffee out when reading that!!

Why?
if its because of where Poole is placed in the third catagory, well, if they dropped the concept of "race night is Wednesday and if not, then the alternative race night needs to be Wednesday and because of that we're staying where we are". Then that could be a different matter. They just look like a promotion that prefers to to be a big fish in a small pool. 

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56 minutes ago, 1 valve said:

Why?
if its because of where Poole is placed in the third catagory, well, if they dropped the concept of "race night is Wednesday and if not, then the alternative race night needs to be Wednesday and because of that we're staying where we are". Then that could be a different matter. They just look like a promotion that prefers to to be a big fish in a small pool. 

I think they are a responsibly sized fish in whatever league they are, or have been, in. I believe their prime concern is remaining financially viable  with restricted income streams and securing a long term tenure of their stadium. 

What surprised me was your inclusion of the Edinburghs, Berwicks and Redcars in their respective groups, and the likes of Sheffield in 'the rest'?

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49 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said:

I think they are a responsibly sized fish in whatever league they are, or have been, in. I believe their prime concern is remaining financially viable  with restricted income streams and securing a long term tenure of their stadium. 

What surprised me was your inclusion of the Edinburghs, Berwicks and Redcars in their respective groups, and the likes of Sheffield in 'the rest'?

The reason there is a doubt about Sheffied is that their current promoters have made it clear that although they love the sport and the Tigers in particular, they dont see themselves continuing in the medium term There is also the concern that the stadium is actually quite limited in terms of accommodating any significant growth in attendance due to the back straight being "out of bounds" on safety concerns.
The three northern/north East teams team appear to have less concerns in that direction with management who would appear willing to more than give it a go.
The issue with Poole remains their intransigence to move race nights, I agree they have always put out a decent team to say the least, just not very clear that the promotion is willing to entertain something that would be for the greater good. 

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1 hour ago, 1 valve said:

The reason there is a doubt about Sheffied is that their current promoters have made it clear that although they love the sport and the Tigers in particular, they dont see themselves continuing in the medium term There is also the concern that the stadium is actually quite limited in terms of accommodating any significant growth in attendance due to the back straight being "out of bounds" on safety concerns.
The three northern/north East teams team appear to have less concerns in that direction with management who would appear willing to more than give it a go.
The issue with Poole remains their intransigence to move race nights, I agree they have always put out a decent team to say the least, just not very clear that the promotion is willing to entertain something that would be for the greater good. 

The greater good is surely about clubs being financially sound no matter what level they operate at. Poole have done and won the Elite/Premiership for several seasons  eventually losing money and fans.

Putting themselves at financial risk simply to make up the numbers in a smaller league does not make good business sense. And Poole is a business for the Fords not a hobby!!

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1 hour ago, SteveLyric2 said:

The greater good is surely about clubs being financially sound no matter what level they operate at. Poole have done and won the Elite/Premiership for several seasons  eventually losing money and fans.

Putting themselves at financial risk simply to make up the numbers in a smaller league does not make good business sense. And Poole is a business for the Fords not a hobby!!

It is quite baffling why some would want what appears to be one of the few financially successful clubs to rip up their business plan and operating model to "do something different"...

When that "something different" clearly wasn't working back when there were more teams in the top tier, and the sport appeared more stable and had more going for it, than it currently does...

If I were running Poole I would expect a lot of incentives to move into the top tier to ensure my balance sheet wasn't negatively impacted, and was protected, and, if I didn't get them, then I would be quite happy to stay where I was...

 

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2 hours ago, mikebv said:

It is quite baffling why some would want what appears to be one of the few financially successful clubs to rip up their business plan and operating model to "do something different"...

When that "something different" clearly wasn't working back when there were more teams in the top tier, and the sport appeared more stable and had more going for it, than it currently does...

If I were running Poole I would expect a lot of incentives to move into the top tier to ensure my balance sheet wasn't negatively impacted, and was protected, and, if I didn't get them, then I would be quite happy to stay where I was...

 

Agreed. As I said previously. Some promotions need step aside. If one is Poole then so be it. 

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