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Looks much weaker.

As I’ve said before I’ve been crucified on social media from some quarters and that’s fine I’m not bothered by it but the bit that grates is I may be in the wrong and my thoughts my not be a way forward but nobody is doing anything, we are plodding on piddling about with rule adjustments, nobody is getting hold of the sport, so if your going to say I’m wrong then at least offer some alternative , the sport needs structure and strict machine and finance control

Don’t get me wrong, although it may come across that I’m out to get at riders I’m not, this is about the bigger picture of the future of the sport, the fact is the crowds are getting smaller and the money is getting less, now we can all blame the bspa or cradley or Donald trump or whoever you want but the fact still remains we are where we are and now buxton are struggling to field a team because of riders demands , my angle on this far too much is spent on unnecessary equipment by the riders, there is no need for a lot of it but riders want it and believe they need it and so pushing costs up and who funds the costs? The fans who are not turning up, the sport as a whole needs to get a grip on costs and machinery but to get this to happen is like pulling teeth, there are many people in the sport who don’t understand or just turn a blind eye to just how bad things are financially at some clubs, we are slowly dying and as painful as it is, we need to take steps to address this and we are not doing anything and I can honestly say the sport I love and have devoted my life too sometimes deserves to die, it is it’s own worst enemy, I listen to riders talk about money from speedway and quite frankly they couldn’t care less if a club shut down as long as they got their money, i know it costs a fortune to race, when i was in the premier league I spent a fortune on engine bills with top tuners like blomfeldt and bullet and I still have the eye watering bills even by today’s standard and I was on piss poor money , infact it was less than national league riders today and I lost £1000s but that’s what I had to do, i didnt spend on unnecerary bits that I couldn’t afford , you could argue that I didn’t make it but it wasn’t through lack of ambition or money, I rode against some big names and rode in all 3 leagues but at the end of the day I didn’t have enough talent but I never set out to or expected to earn a living from speedway, I was in it to be the best, I suppose world champion in some fairyland day dreams and when that didn’t happen I just decided to change the way I approached speedway and had a blast , just want to add my finest moment was I beat Nicki Pedersen and there ain’t many riders in the sport who can claim that lol. One other point I have made before is you get the best 10 NL riders on the best bikes money can buy v Jason Doyle on a 10 year old GM who will win ? Until the day comes when it’s a NL rider wins then I will keep plugging my point about unnecerary costs, we could just ignore the whole thing and put £5 rise on admission for the fans

Also worth noting with Bellego last night, the collision in the first staging of heat 3 bent his bike. He realised this after his 2nd ride of the night. Got pulled out of his 3rd one, then went out on an un-bent bike in heat 14 and won comfortably. There's a few inconsistencies in there, but generally I still like the feel of this team and think we'll be pushing for trophies at the end of the season. After last season, I think there are a section of our fans who think we should be winning every meeting, and should be scoring at least 55 at home each time. Entertainment wise, I prefer a meeting like last night to a drubbing.

Let's be fair its 2 people who dig at Bellego. One posts like a multi alias troll does and Crazy Robin panics if we only win by 10 at home so all in all people are behind Bellego.

If a rider aims to reach the top of his profession, he should be able to ride any track. The likes of Adams, Crump & Ward were brilliant at arena.

The Robins were off their game last night and it really looked likely at one stage that Rye were going to win it, however they turned it round in the end. If the team can be as below par as they were last night and still win I think it bodes well. In any team sport even the best teams have occasional lapses in form but the top teams can still win even when they're not at their best. I think there may have been a bit of complacency last night but judging by Rosco's demeanor at the post meeting press conference this will get addressed sooner rather than later. One final thought and that is about David Bellego. He seems to becoming the team's whipping boy for sub par performances. Some people seem to forget that David was a a key component in last season's success, a point raised by Rosco himself during the season review. Sure he's not riding as well as he did last year but I'm sure he can pull his form round. We don't want to become like the Pikey's on the south coast and start ditching riders as soon as their form dips.

The top of the table stuff after a couple of matches has become increasingly tiresome.

A sad fact is a good percentage of young riders don’t understand the importance of a good clean air filter but strangely think it’s important to have an anadized joker throttle

Changing the shape of the track even inside the current boundaries would be an enormous task with drains, lights and power all having to be relocated. this would also come at a big cost. This being the case, not sure the promoters would foot the bill especially since they are only tenants and may not get a return on their money during the time they are involved with Leicester. Much better to focus on the surface of the current track and focus on getting it back to where it was last year in terms of grip and consistency with racing lines available around both the inside and wide out.

A reduced fixture list with weeks & weeks of no meetings & we still have to resort to double headers. Madness.

I'm a Berwick fan but chuffed to bits for Tom Bacon tonight

Tell you what, they should just make it 3 for first, and no other points! GB would have won that way, and the strategy in the final would have been justified! Steve

Only those that thought Tom 'streaky' Bacon would score 12+2 from five rides. I never had any doubts myself

Bacons sizzling tonight

Shouldve had the conviction to see it through and called the bluff of the Championship then....

Just happy that unlike start of last season we're winning home meetings

Starman is always willing to engage with those who post sensible comment/speedway discussion. He is a through and through Poole man where I live miles away in Chelmford, Essex so only get a chance of limited support. Doesnt stop my love of Poole or the sport in general though. Starman will always try and find time to make sensible comment to people who post sensible and discussable Speedway content. Like me he doesnt want to engage with those who use the forum only to have a dig for the sake of it.

Other teams are more helpful & not win at all costs as proved when we agreed to rearrange our meeting when Klindt, Bewley & BWD had GP qualifiers.

I thought we should adopt the Workington approach from a PR point of view, you know the let's not tell anyone we've got a good team and let's not hold any home matches, that way no one will complain about the food and drink and we won't lose more money. A brilliant business model! And of course if we race tonight that's saved you c20 points of points money. Win win for everyone

Ellis Perks is back racing in UK his pem average fits 3.80

no fixtures for weeks , then this . IF Glasgow win ,it will the hollowest of hollow victories and the Glasgow spiel machine will run riot . rain dance anyone !

well, after going behind the way we did, to drag that result back to a win with a 14 point swing, got to be happy with that. sure, DB is struggling at the moment, but pretty sure he's going nowhere... (much to the disgust of RR) the track wasn't as quick as it has been for the last few meetings with a bigger bias on gates 1 & 3... Rye House must be gutted to not convert that start they had, 2 - 10 after 2 heats...

A twit for stating a opinion on a forum. Maybe you shouldn’t be a member of this forum, God forbid anybody have a difference of opinion.

Your a twit.How's Mitch's fundraising going.

Championship crowds run to lesser crowds after years and years of often having to run 'select teams' when their heat leaders are needed in other countries... Even the most ardent fans are now giving such nonsense a miss.. When it's not 'your team' then why attend? So many have simply lost that 'emotional attachment' as it has been eroded away by a completely unfit for purpose Operating Model.. One thing for me though is clear.... If the Leagues actually possessed 100% credibility, and everything else was equal, ie the same 14 riders, the same weather conditions, the same start time and the same admission costs. The crowd levels attracted on a Friday or Saturday evenings, or a Sunday afternoon, would far out weigh the crowd you would generate (for exactly the same thing) on any given evening Monday to Thursday... The flip side to that is it doesn't really matter what night you run if fans are not going to attend because they don't feel any attachment to any randomly cobbled together teams put in front of them... That weekend clubs currently ride in front of 'lesser crowds' is more down to a disillusioned ex fan base, who gradually got more peed off with the nonsense being put in front of them I would suggest rather than the night they race on... Quite simply the current British Speedway Operating Model does absolutely no one any great favours... And that is not usually a successful way to run a business....

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Hancocks always been a nasty piece of work off track and all smiles behind the camera. Sounds like a right barrel of laughs being part of team usa!

A little harsh there - yes, a long delay when Kyle was injured. The paramedic was with him for quite some time and no racing possible until said individual gets back in position. Gappmaier was lucky with only two exclusions - he could well have gone in Heat 4 when he failed to turn entering the first bend. As it is he did his best to inflict damage on the Lakeside riders without, apparently, doing any harm to himself. 60 points were on the card pre Kyle's injury and the remaining team members did well to accumulate 56 in the circumstances.

pretty quiet on here for a Glasgow thread ..... they have troubles ....

Brilliant result. Imagine how good we could've beem with Kennett in for Perks

So the material that was obviously garbage and that one could easily see wouldn't bind was laid anyway by knowledgable track men? Nobody at fault? Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

I doubt there`s a Berwick fan out there, that isn't locked up for their own safety anyway, thought they would stay at the top.

So we replace a guy who double figured on his last visit with another guaranteed at least 3 doughnuts, not the lads fault of course,but welcome to British speedway where nothing seems to matter,and the supporters who matter even less

You really are something else. Not sure what that's got to do with the last few posts which is about canceling a match in June with 'riders missing' so we can hold it in October with 'riders missing'. But since you mention it im sure you would have rather beat us in front of a big crowd (remember them) so that lots of people would have witnessed your tremendous victory but by the end of the season (27/10) nobody cared, nobody came to watch but hey Glasgow lost that's all that matters.

and the time before lol .

didnt our makeshift team paxo you lot ?

What a lot of tosh. Have you cancelled matches cos Worrall and others have been injured. Injuries go with the territory. Can anyone guarantee that all 14 riders would be available if we postponed it at Workington request and to my knowledge they haven't. Last year teams refused re run dates cos they would not be at full strength and eventually they raced with teams full of guests at the end of the season in front of pitiful crowds. Is that what you want

Very True Ironscorpion

Don't worry jenga if we win we'll not publicise it for a week and even then just put out a few words to say we were lucky and that it was a pity that the Workington management agreed to this match when t fixtures came out as it was obvious Bewley would be missing and proctor injured.

I didn't expect a win, nor a point, but I thought Berwick could muster up more than thirty two. Credit to Gappmaier and Howe who at least showed some resistance but the others, well they will need to provide a better performance tonight at Lakeside than last night at Sheffield.

He won't be back next year apparently so maybe some truth in what your saying

King Kev likes to keep his away average to about 5

I watch speedway regularly at all three levels, and crowds are down across the board. Not all of this can be blamed on fixed race nights. The product and the facilities are generally poor, and don't represent value for money anymore. I paid £21 including prog to watch a dust bowl at Poole last night, was it worth it, not in my opinion.

If I understand Terry Russell 's comments in todays Speedway Star correctly he feels BSPA have made a right ruddy hames of the whole issue

Looking at the line-up, Lambert is more than capable for top 3. It may be a step to far for GP's in 2019 but he'd certainly learn a hell of a lot more from that experience. Far more than not being in it. I certainly hope he get through

You've been spending to much time with the CornhillCowboy with that patter

I think Tai did the right thing in beating his counterpart Artem. It was Lamberts job to do the same with his counterpart Emil.

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