Leicester Lion 274 Posted October 6, 2013 When I saw the thread "Rolling Average" I thought it was the number of times riders were pulled back by the ref. Although the two words do perfectly describe Nicolai Klindt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted April 20, 2014 This years regs do not seem to state how many matches count towards the rolling averages - only stating 'the specified number' without going on to specify it for each league! Anyone know the correct number? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gambo 1,341 Posted April 20, 2014 This years regs do not seem to state how many matches count towards the rolling averages - only stating 'the specified number' without going on to specify it for each league! Anyone know the correct number? 28 for Elite League (even though there are 36 League Matches) 24 for PL (Includes League Cup this year) ATB Dave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted April 21, 2014 28 for Elite League (even though there are 36 League Matches) 24 for PL (Includes League Cup this year) ATB Dave Thanks Dave - so no change in terms of number despite the format changes in both leagues. Out of interest is there an officially source for the info given it is not in the 2014 regs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted April 21, 2014 Thanks Dave - so no change in terms of number despite the format changes in both leagues. Out of interest is there an officially source for the info given it is not in the 2014 regs? Just ring up the duty BSPA MC member and you'll get whatever answer suits your situation!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,727 Posted April 21, 2014 Thanks Dave - so no change in terms of number despite the format changes in both leagues. Out of interest is there an officially source for the info given it is not in the 2014 regs? Yes-Dave Gambrill Kandysoft spreadsheets-he is the main man 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted April 21, 2014 Yes-Dave Gambrill Kandysoft spreadsheets-he is the main man fair enough but surely even he needs to be told what rules to apply?? On second thoughts it may have gone like this - BSPA - "Dave we've decided to use 36 and 28 matches for the averages this year" Dave - "but I already have the old versions running nicely" BSPa - "OK leave it as it is then" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gambo 1,341 Posted April 21, 2014 fair enough but surely even he needs to be told what rules to apply?? On second thoughts it may have gone like this - BSPA - "Dave we've decided to use 36 and 28 matches for the averages this year" Dave - "but I already have the old versions running nicely" BSPa - "OK leave it as it is then" More like the other way round! The actual template we now use can cope with any number & combination of matches. ATB Dave 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted May 30, 2014 Edinburghs June set show both Worrall and Sneddon on 5.35. It would good if someone was able to post the totals used for the calculation so it is in the open as to which has the higher average when taken to further decimal places. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted May 30, 2014 Edinburghs June set show both Worrall and Sneddon on 5.35. It would good if someone was able to post the totals used for the calculation so it is in the open as to which has the higher average when taken to further decimal places. Whatever happened to SIMPLICITY? :rolleyes: 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gambo 1,341 Posted May 30, 2014 Edinburghs June set show both Worrall and Sneddon on 5.35. It would good if someone was able to post the totals used for the calculation so it is in the open as to which has the higher average when taken to further decimal places. I believe that in these instances a Promoter can chose which rider is nominated as the higher if it affects Heat Leader or Reserve positions. Once the choice is made, it cannot be changed. ATB Dave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeilWatson 1,988 Posted May 30, 2014 SR 16.3.1. In any declaration where 2 or more Riders hold an identical MA (i.e. cannot be determined by a 3rd or more decimal point) then the (re) Declaration must nominate the hierarchical order except that where Riders have a previous MA then the higher placed Rider from the previous issue shall retain the higher position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted May 30, 2014 Can anyone tell me when and WHY these bloody 'Rolling Averages' started please. I don't fully understand them and neither do a lot of others who I talk to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted May 30, 2014 Can anyone tell me when and WHY these bloody 'Rolling Averages' started please. I don't fully understand them and neither do a lot of others who I talk to. To stop average fiddling. By always including 20+ meetings 2 or 3 bad meetings will only make a tiny dent in a riders average. 2 or 3 bad meetings in 6 will make a massive difference. They are a good thing tbf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted May 30, 2014 (edited) SR 16.3.1. In any declaration where 2 or more Riders hold an identical MA (i.e. cannot be determined by a 3rd or more decimal point) then the (re) Declaration must nominate the hierarchical order except that where Riders have a previous MA then the higher placed Rider from the previous issue shall retain the higher position. so unless both records are identical there is a definitive order and no choice. Thanks. Edit - Anyone have the 2 sets of figures to be able to post? Edited May 30, 2014 by dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
