OveFundinFan 4,141 Posted April 23, 2016 Thank you ouch and Aces5, I couldnt be bothered answering myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
a4poster 82 Posted April 24, 2016 Eleven days now and counting... Perhaps I wouldn't feel so aggrieved if it wasn't for the 500 mile round trip, hotel and £90 rail fare on a track that with the subsequent delay was never even close to racing on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Star Lady 5,400 Posted April 24, 2016 I can understand your frustration but even for Belle Vue the Royal Mail do not deliver on Sundays. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humphrey Appleby 13,955 Posted April 24, 2016 1. Why take responsibly when its been made clear it wasn't their fault? The sport will never improve whilst speedway fans continue to apologise for the incompetent way in which the sport is run. There are undoubtedly several parties that have screwed up, but the bottom line is the promotion is ultimately responsible for the project management and ensuring the track is fit for purpose. They are certainly responsible for attempting to go ahead with a meeting when there were known to be significant problems with the track and possibly other things as well. The fans pay their money to the promotion - that's all we need to know. Speedway promotions seem incapable of taking responsibility for the meetings they put on, and only that, genuinely seem to believe they shouldn't be responsible. Witness all the buck passing over the GP failures over the years (and BTW - is Speedsport doing the track at Warsaw again after all the talk of legal consequences). 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ouch 1,191 Posted April 24, 2016 It makes you wonder why Alan "Doc" Bridgett and Colin Meredith and SCB referee Graham Flint and David Gordon and Chris Morton and (immediately after the track walk/inspection) Tia Woffinden and Nicki Pedersen and the other 16 riders including Richie Worrall and Max Fricke who has ridden the track at length the day before and Breedon aggregated (shale supplier) and Mark Lemon and everybody else I've missed out didn't say the meeting should definitely be off before we all got let in. It's almost as if (I'm going to go out on a limb here folks) they ALL thought there was a more than good chance of the meeting going ahead. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trophykid 32 Posted April 24, 2016 Refund received in the post Saturday morning. Very relieved to see it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Notenoughnerve 67 Posted April 25, 2016 The sport will never improve whilst speedway fans continue to apologise for the incompetent way in which the sport is run. There are undoubtedly several parties that have screwed up, but the bottom line is the promotion is ultimately responsible for the project management and ensuring the track is fit for purpose. They are certainly responsible for attempting to go ahead with a meeting when there were known to be significant problems with the track and possibly other things as well. The fans pay their money to the promotion - that's all we need to know. Speedway promotions seem incapable of taking responsibility for the meetings they put on, and only that, genuinely seem to believe they shouldn't be responsible. Witness all the buck passing over the GP failures over the years (and BTW - is Speedsport doing the track at Warsaw again after all the talk of legal consequences). How many times can it be said. The bottom line is Belle Vue weren't in charge of the whole project. Manchester City Council were. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted April 25, 2016 The moaners are probably meek and feeble henpecked husbands, the car goes in for a service but it comes back late and the wife blames them and they meekly accept it, the washing machine needs fixing and the man can't come till next week, more henpecking 'yes dear'. These poor souls have never known anything else, even the language used in their gormless moaning mimics what a caricature battleaxe woman would use when berating the poor unfortunate spouse for something he just has no control over. They just see this forum as their opportunity to somehow redress the balance in their sad lives. Thanks for that Andy (Capp). Florrie would love you for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humphrey Appleby 13,955 Posted April 25, 2016 The bottom line is Belle Vue weren't in charge of the whole project. Manchester City Council were. The bottom line is that Belle Vue are responsible for putting on the meetings and deciding to take the money of paying punters. In hindsight it was too optimistic to run a high-profile meeting with such little testing of a new track and facilities as well. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted April 25, 2016 The bottom line is that Belle Vue are responsible for putting on the meetings and deciding to take the money of paying punters. In hindsight it was too optimistic to run a high-profile meeting with such little testing of a new track and facilities as well. Everything is easy with hindsight Humphrey. I can understand their enthusiasm for getting the Meeting on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevePark 2,780 Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) Everything is easy with hindsight Humphrey. I can understand their enthusiasm for getting the Meeting on. Despite being advised not to? Edited April 25, 2016 by Steve Park Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor 270 Posted April 25, 2016 Racing to begin this weekend. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ouch 1,191 Posted April 25, 2016 Despite being advised not to? By who? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,615 Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) Everything is easy with hindsight Humphrey. I can understand their enthusiasm for getting the Meeting on. You don't need highsight to work out that before you put of a massive first meeting that has a crowd of 6000 b that must test run it before hand ...it's just common sense ...and that has nothing to do with Manchester council . Edited April 25, 2016 by orion 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Notenoughnerve 67 Posted April 25, 2016 You don't need highsight to work out that before you put of a massive first meeting that has a crowd of 6000 big that must test run it before hand ...it's just common sense ...and that has nothing to do with Manchester council . Any meeting that was put on as an opening meeting was going to attract a big crowd. If the job had been done properly it should and would have been just fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites