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5 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said:

I HAVE enquired about the eventuality of a 3-3 ... no response yet

Perhaps they have not had enough time to think these things through.

It has taken them months to get this far, after all.

It being such a small, unimportant matter ... Of just how the winner is decided.

Can't expect them to have that covered straight away.

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If it's a 3-3 in the final, they should keep doing reruns until one team gains an advantage.

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27 minutes ago, Garry1603 said:

If it's a 3-3 in the final, they should keep doing reruns until one team gains an advantage.

The TV schedulers would love it.

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2 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said:

DON'T agree ... better team riding under the conventional scoring system. Ridiculous to have race in which the winner is actually the loser... in my opinion.

But it's a pairs event and not individual. Different rules apply and you're only as strong as your weakest link...I find it just as ridiculous to finish last and win.

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We were promised something new and amazing. It looks like a rehashed old pair format and a final in Poland. So just how is this different?

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54 minutes ago, Garry1603 said:

If it's a 3-3 in the final, they should keep doing reruns until one team gains an advantage.

There is an easy solution, if it is a 3-3 in the final. The pair that has scored more points in total over the two days (42 heats) should then be the winners.

That would be a fair and acceptable tie-breaker. It would give the overall top point scoring pair something of a bonus going into the final, knowing that a 3-3 would give them the title, while the other pair with a lesser points total knows they have to beat their opponents in that final heat by 4-2 or 5-1 to win the championship.  

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9 minutes ago, Bavarian said:

There is an easy solution, if it is a 3-3 in the final. The pair that has scored more points in total over the two days (42 heats) should then be the winners.

That would be a fair and acceptable tie-breaker. It would give the overall top point scoring pair something of a bonus going into the final, knowing that a 3-3 would give them the title, while the other pair with a lesser points total knows they have to beat their opponents in that final heat by 4-2 or 5-1 to win the championship.  

So the final is not a winner takes all.

The guy that wins this final doesn't necessarily get top position in the podium

It is really just a final chance for the second places team to it, even if they were miles behind after forty two races and two days ...But only if they get a 4-2.I

I know that all makes some sort of sense here.

But On TV it will look way too complicated and contrived for the casual viewer.

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2 hours ago, Grand Central said:

Everyone understands that TV wants a decisive final race.

We are not stupid.

But a Grand Final that may easily end 3-3 is not consistent with that, is It?

So what is your solution to satisfy TV and fans.     Remember the WCP needs TV money.

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1 hour ago, Grand Central said:

Perhaps they have not had enough time to think these things through.

It has taken them months to get this far, after all.

It being such a small, unimportant matter ... Of just how the winner is decided.

Can't expect them to have that covered straight away.

No reason not to run the heat again until there is a winner. 

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14 minutes ago, Bavarian said:

There is an easy solution, if it is a 3-3 in the final. The pair that has scored more points in total over the two days (42 heats) should then be the winners.

That would be a fair and acceptable tie-breaker. It would give the overall top point scoring pair something of a bonus going into the final, knowing that a 3-3 would give them the title, while the other pair with a lesser points total knows they have to beat their opponents in that final heat by 4-2 or 5-1 to win the championship.  

You got it spot on Bavarian.After all the promises about a brave new world,all we get is a world version of a competition we already have running each year!!!

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In 2017, the two semi-finals of the European Pairs Ch'ship were held at Liberec (CZ) and Zarnovica (Slovakia), and the final was at Lonigo in Italy.

The following fifteen nations participated last year:

Team GB won the first semi-final, France and Denmark were the other two qualifiers from this round, while the Czech Republic, Germany, Romania, and Austria were eliminated.

Poland won the second semi-final, ahead of Russia and Latvia, who also qualified for the final. The Ukraine, Slovenia, Slovakia, and Bulgaria were eliminated.

Hosts Italy were seeded to the 2017 European Pairs Final at Lonigo, which was won by Poland, from Russia (2nd), France (3rd), Denmark (4th), Italy (5th), Great Britain (6th), and Latvia (7th).  

Just slightly changed so we have a two day final.Not sure why it has taken so long for all this when we have a European version anyway.And not sure how big this call for a world pairs is,when we also have the other pairs run by the other mob as well!!!:P

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16 minutes ago, Bavarian said:

There is an easy solution, if it is a 3-3 in the final. The pair that has scored more points in total over the two days (42 heats) should then be the winners.

That would be a fair and acceptable tie-breaker. It would give the overall top point scoring pair something of a bonus going into the final, knowing that a 3-3 would give them the title, while the other pair with a lesser points total knows they have to beat their opponents in that final heat by 4-2 or 5-1 to win the championship.  

 

5 minutes ago, Mark said:

No reason not to run the heat again until there is a winner. 

Pretty basic and fundamental rule in track racing is that when ever theres a tie for a top three position, theres a run off to determine which one is better.

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8 minutes ago, Mark said:

So what is your solution to satisfy TV and fans.     Remember the WCP needs TV money.

Well.

The SWC managed very well for over 15years without succumbing to the Grand Final pressure from TV.

The team with most points won.

And it seemed quite successful.

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36 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

What is there to gain by having the final over 2 days- apart from making a weekend of it ? Will any Polish fans turn up on the 1st day ??

POLAND will compete on both days ... it's a two-day event

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10 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said:

POLAND will compete on both days ... it's a two-day event

Yes i know that but after 21 races on day 1 nothing whatsoever is decided- if they are selling tickets seperately for the 2 days i think the Polish fans will turn up( in the main ) on the 2nd day

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