Col 854 Posted April 26, 2019 (edited) I take it KB was a TS in heat 14? Bjerre did well to hold off ZG's 40+ers. Edited April 26, 2019 by Col Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,723 Posted April 26, 2019 (edited) On 4/22/2019 at 11:35 AM, racers and royals said: With SEC qualification meetings at Poznan and Gorican on Saturday- the Polish TV action is only on Friday and Sunday this week.- all UK times Friday April 26th Extraleague Czestochowa v Lublin Eleven Sport 1 programme starts 4.30pm 1st race 5pm Friday April 26th Extraleague Zielona Gora v Grudziadz Eleven Sport 1 programme starts 7.15pm 1st race 7.30pm Sunday April 28th Nice Polska Rybnik v Tarnow Polsat sport programme starts 1.45pm Sunday April 28th Extraleague Leszno v Gorzow N Sport programme starts 2.30pm 1st race 3pm Sunday April 28th Extraleague Wroclaw v Torun N Sport programme starts 5.30pm 1st race 6pm Sundays lineups Rybnik v Tarnow https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/relacja/95265/pgg-row-rybnik-unia-tarnow Leszno v Gorzow https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/relacja/94485/fogo-unia-leszno-trulywork-stal-gorzow Wroclaw v Torun https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/relacja/94486/betard-sparta-wroclaw-get-well-torun Edited April 26, 2019 by racers and royals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,273 Posted April 26, 2019 (edited) Buzz was the Tac for Lindback Col..... Hence he went in 15 as well. . Watching Polish Speedway really does show up how poor the offering is in the UK... And I don't mean the best riders being on show, as it's clear the UK cannot afford them.. For me it's the whole package that leaves us decades behind regardless of the standard of rider.. Fans all in T Shirts of their teams.. It would cost approx one heat leaders salary for one match over here to buy 1000 T shirts at cost and give them away to fans.. The riders lined up waiting for the 2 minute whistle meaning they all come out together building up atmosphere, (music being played as they enter the track).. Buzz had four minutes allocated between HT 14 and 15 to be ready... The racing starting 2 mins after the whistle so riders don't go back to get things rechecked as they don't have time, and gardening has to be done quickly.. The starts meticulously ran by the Marshall with head phones on directly linked to the ref meaning tyres are mm away from the tapes, hence no rolling at the starts and each rider has to comply or the ref instructs the Marshall to speak with the one not following orders.. The mechanics and managers all in club colours, not their own overalls... All these things bring professionalism to the sport and it's also noticeable how tribal it is, there is hardly any congratulations given to an opponent by the riders, (which may be down to not being able to ride on any given night for every team in the league like you can over here, being team mates one night in the Premiership and rivals the next in the leagues below)... And all done and dusted under two hours inclusive of TV advert breaks.. Unlike over here, the only thing Mickey Mouse about Polish Speedway is the ZG badge! No wonder the crowds are so good.. Edited April 26, 2019 by mikebv 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,723 Posted April 26, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, mikebv said: Buzz was the Tac for Lindback... Hence he went in 15 as well. . Watching Polish Speedway really does show up how poor the offering is in the UK... And I don't mean the best riders being on show, as it's clear the UK cannot afford them.. For me it's the whole package that leaves us decades behind regardless of the standard of rider.. Fans all in T Shirts of their teams.. It would cost approx one heat leaders salary for one match to buy 1000 T shirts at cost and give them away to fans.. The riders lined up waiting for the 2 minute whistle meaning they all come out together building up atmosphere, (music being played as they enter the track).. The racing starting 2 mins after the whistle so riders don't go back to get things rechecked as they don't have time, and gardening has to be done quickly.. The starts meticulously ran by the Marshall with head phones on directly linked to the ref meaning tyres are mm away from the tapes, hence no rolling at the starts and each rider has to comply or the ref instructs the Marshall to speak with the one not following orders.. The mechanics and managers all in club colours, not their own overalls... All these things bring professionalism to the sport and it's also noticeable how tribal it is, there is hardly any congratulations given to an opponent by the riders, (which may be down to not being able to ride on any given night for every team in the league like you can over here, being team mates one night in the Premiership and rivals the next in the leagues below)... Unlike over here, the only thing Mickey Mouse about Polish Speedway is the ZG badge! No wonder the crowds are so good.. Agree wholeheartedly - one other point - Parade 10 mins before start time. 1st heat bang on start time. 1hour 45 mins/ 2 hours (at the latest) everything wrapped up. Edited April 26, 2019 by racers and royals 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stewmac 471 Posted April 26, 2019 1 hour ago, mikebv said: Buzz was the Tac for Lindback Col..... Hence he went in 15 as well. . Watching Polish Speedway really does show up how poor the offering is in the UK... And I don't mean the best riders being on show, as it's clear the UK cannot afford them.. For me it's the whole package that leaves us decades behind regardless of the standard of rider.. Fans all in T Shirts of their teams.. It would cost approx one heat leaders salary for one match over here to buy 1000 T shirts at cost and give them away to fans.. The riders lined up waiting for the 2 minute whistle meaning they all come out together building up atmosphere, (music being played as they enter the track).. Buzz had four minutes allocated between HT 14 and 15 to be ready... The racing starting 2 mins after the whistle so riders don't go back to get things rechecked as they don't have time, and gardening has to be done quickly.. The starts meticulously ran by the Marshall with head phones on directly linked to the ref meaning tyres are mm away from the tapes, hence no rolling at the starts and each rider has to comply or the ref instructs the Marshall to speak with the one not following orders.. The mechanics and managers all in club colours, not their own overalls... All these things bring professionalism to the sport and it's also noticeable how tribal it is, there is hardly any congratulations given to an opponent by the riders, (which may be down to not being able to ride on any given night for every team in the league like you can over here, being team mates one night in the Premiership and rivals the next in the leagues below)... And all done and dusted under two hours inclusive of TV advert breaks.. Unlike over here, the only thing Mickey Mouse about Polish Speedway is the ZG badge! No wonder the crowds are so good.. You nailed it. Our mentality here that everything we do is best, and that no other country could possibly be better than us is so sadly out of date these days it's embarrassing. If I had the time and the money to be able to head over to Poland every weekend, I would go in a heartbeat. If you compare it to UK speedway, it's light years ahead in every single department. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col 854 Posted April 26, 2019 Poland is great, but... The Golden Helmet farve was almost as embarrassing as the opening of the NSS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,723 Posted April 27, 2019 11000 at Zielona Gora 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PolskiZuzel 329 Posted April 27, 2019 19 hours ago, mikebv said: Buzz was the Tac for Lindback Col..... Hence he went in 15 as well. . Watching Polish Speedway really does show up how poor the offering is in the UK... And I don't mean the best riders being on show, as it's clear the UK cannot afford them.. For me it's the whole package that leaves us decades behind regardless of the standard of rider.. Fans all in T Shirts of their teams.. It would cost approx one heat leaders salary for one match over here to buy 1000 T shirts at cost and give them away to fans.. The riders lined up waiting for the 2 minute whistle meaning they all come out together building up atmosphere, (music being played as they enter the track).. Buzz had four minutes allocated between HT 14 and 15 to be ready... The racing starting 2 mins after the whistle so riders don't go back to get things rechecked as they don't have time, and gardening has to be done quickly.. The starts meticulously ran by the Marshall with head phones on directly linked to the ref meaning tyres are mm away from the tapes, hence no rolling at the starts and each rider has to comply or the ref instructs the Marshall to speak with the one not following orders.. The mechanics and managers all in club colours, not their own overalls... All these things bring professionalism to the sport and it's also noticeable how tribal it is, there is hardly any congratulations given to an opponent by the riders, (which may be down to not being able to ride on any given night for every team in the league like you can over here, being team mates one night in the Premiership and rivals the next in the leagues below)... And all done and dusted under two hours inclusive of TV advert breaks.. Unlike over here, the only thing Mickey Mouse about Polish Speedway is the ZG badge! No wonder the crowds are so good.. All that you've said above... I agree with...but I would add one more thing. People in Poland flock to the stands not so much because they are concerned about speedway as much as they're concerned about themselves and their image among their own countrymen. They want to portray themselves as being superior to those in other speedway towns. If they would love speedway they would attend in thousands any speedway event. As it is they do it only for the League competition. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,273 Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, PolskiZuzel said: All that you've said above... I agree with...but I would add one more thing. People in Poland flock to the stands not so much because they are concerned about speedway as much as they're concerned about themselves and their image among their own countrymen. They want to portray themselves as being superior to those in other speedway towns. If they would love speedway they would attend in thousands any speedway event. As it is they do it only for the League competition. Which is how a team sport should be... The town or city becomes tribal and their team becomes all encompassing.. 2.5 million people live in Grt Manchester.. Just circa 1500 go to Belle Vue... And many of these, (just like is reflected across the country), now just go to 'watch the Speedway', as competitions in the UK have so much nonsense attached to them that it no longer matters whether you are successful or not... Imagine trying to get away with such garbage in Poland as Tai Woffinden being allowed to guest for ZG or Leszno? And help either qualify for the play offs! Wroclaw fans would riot! (And TV wouldn't touch any sport running such daft rules with a barge pole and neither would the blue chip companies who currently sponsor it.) A professional team sport representing a town or city should generate such passion, sadly over here because of the way it is ran, Speedway barely raises any emotions at all... Edited April 27, 2019 by mikebv 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stewmac 471 Posted April 27, 2019 It's always amazed me that a town the size of Leszno, population 64,000 can pull in over 10,000 fans on a regular basis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,979 Posted April 27, 2019 50 minutes ago, stewmac said: It's always amazed me that a town the size of Leszno, population 64,000 can pull in over 10,000 fans on a regular basis. Yes a bit like Hoffenheim that has a population of 3,000+ and the football team get around 30,000 !!! Even if you calculate that they now play in Sinsheim, that has a population of 35,000,30,000 turn up in the stadium!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James Carter 62 Posted April 28, 2019 Just watched CZ v Lublin. What a great match. Pawel Miesiac - what a rider!!! With G. Laguta waiting to sign is the jig up for AJ or Lambert? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,723 Posted April 28, 2019 On 4/22/2019 at 11:35 AM, racers and royals said: With SEC qualification meetings at Poznan and Gorican on Saturday- the Polish TV action is only on Friday and Sunday this week.- all UK times Friday April 26th Extraleague Czestochowa v Lublin Eleven Sport 1 programme starts 4.30pm 1st race 5pm Friday April 26th Extraleague Zielona Gora v Grudziadz Eleven Sport 1 programme starts 7.15pm 1st race 7.30pm Sunday April 28th Nice Polska Rybnik v Tarnow Polsat sport programme starts 1.45pm Sunday April 28th Extraleague Leszno v Gorzow N Sport programme starts 2.30pm 1st race 3pm Sunday April 28th Extraleague Wroclaw v Torun N Sport programme starts 5.30pm 1st race 6pm Showers forecast for Rybnik- Cloudy in Leszno and in Wroclaw Rybnik should be on here https://supersportowo.com/stream11.html Both Extraleague on here http://www.maniak.tv/kanal-7 and here http://www.drhtv.com.pl/drhtv-4.html 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,723 Posted April 28, 2019 Bewley back for Rybnik today Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NOBODY 538 Posted April 28, 2019 https://ustreamix.su/stream.php?id=polsat-sport&token=b8a-6a8-6b4-a39-951-3c2-303-b6b-d3f-411-98 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites