bellevueace 913 Posted June 2, 2019 A few good races but overall the expected poor fare that you come to expect from this venue, the Champions league final was also a poor game so looking forward to two big sporting events in one day both disappointed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPEEDY69 1,259 Posted June 2, 2019 I didn't think it was too bad, those with the talent still shone. Zmarzlik was fantastic. The series itself is meaningless to me but I Iike the variety and mind games of the different tracks rather than simply full throttle, best setup wins. There were points when the outside on 3/4 was faster but only some had the nous and talent to use it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted June 2, 2019 9 hours ago, Bagpuss said: Lambert had as much speed as anyone else when in front and looked no worse than anyone other than the winner when behind. Not sure why you are singling him out. Changing lines for most last night resulted in losing ground, and don’t forget he was out after every track grade and watering. Two semis out of two is pretty decent going for him, all he lacks really is the experience and a bit of nous at times round the first two bends. For me parts of the GP series are a bit tired and need freshening up, Krsko and Prague are of little interest due to the racing and there are too many riders knocking around who have been in and out for years but will never win it ie Lindback, Iversen, Kolodziej, Zagar, Sayfutdinov etc and it’s all a bit samey. It is called a closed shop Bagpuss,i have said this for years Lambert has done great and he looks really at home in this environment he has had two great rounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,979 Posted June 2, 2019 Talk about a closed shop and Robert Lambert in the same breath !!! What is the answer then stop the best riders getting in so we have some new faces who aren’t good enough just for the sake of it? Do we ask Liverpool and Real Madrid to put out their reserves next year so they don’t do well and lesser teams qualify ..,.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPEEDY69 1,259 Posted June 2, 2019 30 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: It is called a closed shop Bagpuss,i have said this for years Lambert has done great and he looks really at home in this environment he has had two great rounds. Like you I think I'd prefer more change each year, same faces does get boring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OveFundinFan 4,141 Posted June 2, 2019 10 hours ago, Bagpuss said: Lambert had as much speed as anyone else when in front and looked no worse than anyone other than the winner when behind. Not sure why you are singling him out. Changing lines for most last night resulted in losing ground, and don’t forget he was out after every track grade and watering. Two semis out of two is pretty decent going for him, all he lacks really is the experience and a bit of nous at times round the first two bends. I don’t disagree really with what you said. I was “singling” Lambert out because he is the inexperienced one in the field, and British. I was saying he needs to learn to change lines, he didn’t in Warsaw and that was more of a passing track then Krsko. I stick by what I said he needs faster motors, his engines was slower in Warsaw, hence the queue behind him particularly in one race. All due to inexperience which he will gain as time goes by. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted June 2, 2019 7 hours ago, bigcatdiary said: A plan currently exists by the management to get Peterborough back as an FIM track What does it take? New APD and softening the fence in the exits? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James Carter 62 Posted June 2, 2019 (edited) Not a great SGP but BZ did prove that the track was more than raceable. I don't understand the beefing about the series riders need refreshing in terms of riders 1-15. The SGP challenge gives everyone half decent a crack at getting their. What new names deserve to be in to refresh the series? I would be interested to see who you would drop out of the series. Edited June 2, 2019 by James Carter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted June 2, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, iris123 said: Talk about a closed shop and Robert Lambert in the same breath !!! What is the answer then stop the best riders getting in so we have some new faces who aren’t good enough just for the sake of it? Do we ask Liverpool and Real Madrid to put out their reserves next year so they don’t do well and lesser teams qualify ..,.. Crap post Egon Muller would he have ever been in a top ever 16 to show us just how good he was.? Have you a short memory even Tai was lucky to be handed another chance in the series after his maiden effort and yes Robert has earned his chance on merit. Edited June 2, 2019 by Sidney the robin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPEEDY69 1,259 Posted June 2, 2019 1 hour ago, OveFundinFan said: I don’t disagree really with what you said. I was “singling” Lambert out because he is the inexperienced one in the field, and British. I was saying he needs to learn to change lines, he didn’t in Warsaw and that was more of a passing track then Krsko. I stick by what I said he needs faster motors, his engines was slower in Warsaw, hence the queue behind him particularly in one race. All due to inexperience which he will gain as time goes by. Nope, a complete misconception about engines, higher speed on track is down to a combination of rider control and bike setup, rarely the engine itself. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adonis 1,454 Posted June 2, 2019 Perhaps . if there were 2 meetings for every gp . 24 riders in total , top 8 from last gp straight to the next GP , bottom 8 + 8 others race for a gp spot on friday , no more home country wildcards diluting the quality . wonder how many riders would miss the friday qualifiers ridng in Poland then ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,615 Posted June 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Sidney the robin said: Crap post Egon Muller would he have ever been in a top ever 16 to show us just how good he was.? Have you a short memory even Tai was lucky to be handed another chance in the series after his maiden effort and yes Robert has earned his chance on merit. If the rules were fair in the old days Muller would never made any finals .. he only got into the final because he rode against a weaker set of riders in the first place . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted June 2, 2019 51 minutes ago, adonis said: Perhaps . if there were 2 meetings for every gp . 24 riders in total , top 8 from last gp straight to the next GP , bottom 8 + 8 others race for a gp spot on friday , no more home country wildcards diluting the quality . wonder how many riders would miss the friday qualifiers ridng in Poland then ? WHERE would the money come from? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted June 3, 2019 5 hours ago, orion said: If the rules were fair in the old days Muller would never made any finals .. he only got into the final because he rode against a weaker set of riders in the first place . And he showed in 1983 on the day even in his own back yard that he could deal with pressure and win a World Final.For many rider's now that opportunity will never be there and as others have pointed out there are six/eight riders who will never win a series .None of us are saying the series is in a bad way it could be in danger of going stale and needs freshening up.Also is Muller qualifying for all those world finals all those years ago any different to some of these mediocre Countries we have in Football World cup's and average sides in European Now.? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,109 Posted June 3, 2019 If you had the final say, Sidney, which 15 riders would you choose for this year's GP series then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
