Jump to content
British Speedway Forum
craigACE

Belle Vue v Wolverhampton 19/8/2019

Recommended Posts

3 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Bewley needs to get away from BV for a season and build his confidence. Not progressed at all this year. I know he had a bad smack but seems to be staying still. 

Would take him at Swindon. Rides the new place well 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Paid 11 from Bewley and Worral and RR 4.

Bewley is a shadow of the rider from last season and needs to, as woffinden said, grow some backbone. Granted he had a bad smash but that is clearly in his head still. Cant gate either.

Steve is just terribly inconsistent and I'd hope he isn't offered a place next season.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
13 minutes ago, thecoombdog said:

Would take him at Swindon. Rides the new place well 

Dream on!..................:D

 

Reference the wider picture...........Aces always up against it tonight . No Fricke, Bewley off form, Bjerre a latecomer to the meeting, all helped the away side.

No complaints though, Wolves took their chance and were worthy winners.

Edited by lastword

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
50 minutes ago, acef said:

Paid 11 from Bewley and Worral and RR 4.

Bewley is a shadow of the rider from last season and needs to, as woffinden said, grow some backbone. Granted he had a bad smash but that is clearly in his head still. Cant gate either.

Steve is just terribly inconsistent and I'd hope he isn't offered a place next season.

Too much doubling up/down for me..

Interesting that Fricke and Bjerre earn their corn in the two toughest leagues and are head and shoulders ahead of their Aces team mates. .

No dropping down to earn a few quid for them if they have a bad night in the Prem..

British riders in general seem to stay in that 'comfort zone' for far too long and it inevitably then shows later in their careers which often stagnate after a promising start...

Dan and Steve are both returning this season from bad injuries last year, but in Poland both would have been binned this year if they had put in performances like they have for the Aces through the season, no 'understanding' would be shown by owners nor fans..

Holds too many back doubling up I reckon..

British riders need to face some of the real pressures the young Poles face as in the long run it will be far more beneficial..

Edited by mikebv
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, mikebv said:

Too much doubling up/down for me..

Interesting that Fricke and Bjerre earn their corn in the two toughest leagues..

No dropping down to earn a few quid for them if they have a bad night in the Prem..

British riders in general seem to stay in that 'comfort zone' for far too long and it inevitably then shows later in their careers which often stagnate after a promising start...

Dan and Steve are both returning this season from bad injuries last year, but in Poland both would have been binned this year if they had put in performances like they have for the Aces through the season, no 'understanding' would be shown by owners nor fans..

Holds too many back doubling up I reckon..

British riders need to face some of the real pressures the young Poles face as in the long run it will be far more beneficial..

Bewley doesn't double up, in fact I think that is part of the problem this year he's not had enough racing coming back from injury. He does ride in Poland and he was binned off for large portion of the season due to his scores there.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

With Fricko out and Bjerre late not surprised Wolves won.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have said before when Belle Vue were top they were in a vunerable position not many agreed with me at the time but just feel there are 4 stronger teams so the play offs could be tricky.

 

 

 

 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, Rob B said:

Bewley doesn't double up, in fact I think that is part of the problem this year he's not had enough racing coming back from injury. He does ride in Poland and he was binned off for large portion of the season due to his scores there.

Talking in general Rob..

Too much of a comfort zone for these lads is built by having the option to drop down..

Dan has left the second tier behind (or at least he should have), but no doubt next year his average will once again allow him to drop back down again and make him a desirable rider for some lower order team..

Woffy did it right by getting out,  no point being a big fish in a tiny pond as that isn't a truly reflection of where you are in the bigger picture, therefore these lads need to face proper pressure every week rather than riding in front of 1000 or so with no one too bothered who wins...

Riding under real pressure from fans and owners can only focus the mind more acutely..

I think some lads get far too much praise, far too early, without actually doing anything but beating mediocre domestic rivals, which can give a far too highly inflated reputation...

After four or five seasons of racing I would suggest you are not too far away from where your true level is so if your still doubling up, your probably not going to make it to the top level as you really should have moved on..

 

 

  • Like 5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
17 minutes ago, Rob B said:

Bewley doesn't double up, in fact I think that is part of the problem this year he's not had enough racing coming back from injury. He does ride in Poland and he was binned off for large portion of the season due to his scores there.

He doesnt need more racing because the issue is in his head. He isn't going to ride himself out of it. Woffinden was right. Its mental and frankly dan needs to grow a pair of balls. He has started to ride within himself and is timid on the track. I can see it and so can a multi world champion.

I appreciate he is coming back from big injuries but unfortunately this is a tough motorsport and the best way to recover is to attack it.

I was slandered on here earlier in the season for daring to suggest he needed a crash that would test his body, it would cope and he would be back where he needs to be mentally.

Hes always been fragile dan. From that first head injury up at Newcastle. 

Motorsport is a mans game and until he shakes this crash out of his psyche he is going to become a very average rider and that is what we are seeing right now. Cant gate. No track craft because he isn't in the right place mentally.

What he needs is a psychologist to help him overcome it, not more rides.

May be an unpopular opinion but that is the way I see it.

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

This result sure makes a massive difference to the fight for P/O places.  I cant imagine Wolves went with much optimism of getting any change from their trip, and BV no doubt thought another 3 points in the bag.  Just goes to show luck can play a pivotal roll .    When these points are added to their league totals, it will elevate Wolves  in their fight for those final 4 places...

No doubt  BV's next match with a full team, will be a totally different ball game...

Edited by g13webb

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Surprised no one else has mentioned heat 4. Lemon does a reserve switch leaving no one to replace Bjerre when he doesn't make it to the tapes. Poor management imo.

Never the less, delighted with the win. We had to win there eventually, special mention for Kyle and Jacob who were superb.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Disappointing result but what do we expect with our key rider missing and riders still getting back from serious injuries and a rider unavoidably stuck in traffic? TBH we don’t seem to manage adversity very well. Touch and go now If we make the PO? 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Belle Vue head to Kings Lynn on Thursday, will Cooks appeal happen before then? If so then they could be without Lambert and Cook for this crunch meeting. All teams will be riding except Wolves so replacement options are limited

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. Privacy Policy