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11 hours ago, Hackett said:

recall Len Silver being interviewed at Arlington earlier this year and stated that riders are no longer assets plus teams don't have the finances to purchase riders like they previously did. So if you are Eastbourne and Brennan is your asset , it is no longer possible to sell him to Belle Vue or Ipswich Witches for example. 

 

11 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said:

I think Eastie have protected their asset base but more may come out later on that one.. and how much do you think Brennan is worth... 10 20 30k and are you are assuming that the debts are less than these figures and who in the current environment could afford to buy him... and you are again assuming that the guys promoting the spot own the assets?

I still don't get the club asset system, Gordon Pairman kindly explained it on the Club Asstes thread a few weeks ago... but why are riders "assets" of clubs? Do they sell their soul to the devil by accepting a big bung to become a club asset? Back in the day some riders used to own their own contracts and even buy their contracts back from clubs. The riders are self employed, I assume they run limited companies and in effect do contract work. I am a contractor myself but I've never sold my career away to a single employer who then goes on to charge other companies for the use of my services. I just don't get it. Surely the only way you could be an "asset" is if you were on PAYE, like footballers... but I suspect that may be illegal if ever tested properly.

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15 minutes ago, Trackerman48 said:

Bob you are way of the mark with the price for a new air fence for a track the size of eastbourne it would be just under 20k. 

Probably been asked already... but why do Eastbourne need a new airfence?

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6 minutes ago, iainb said:

Probably been asked already... but why do Eastbourne need a new airfence?

Iain you will find a  airfence only last for 6 or 7yrs . Same as Birmingham they need a new one.

 

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1 minute ago, Trackerman48 said:

Iain you will find a  airfence only last for 6 or 7yrs . Same as Birmingham they need a new one.

 

Why? What happens to them?

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1 minute ago, iainb said:

Why? What happens to them?

The bags being out in all weather the material they are made from breaks down cracking ect. The same as lorry curtains.  

 

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Just now, Trackerman48 said:

The bags being out in all weather the material they are made from breaks down cracking ect. The same as lorry curtains.  

 

Oh, OK... they don't take them down and store them in a shed then?

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3 minutes ago, iainb said:

Why? What happens to them?

I'd hazard a guess that the material deteriorates due to rain and sunshine, numerous scuffs and lots of inflation and deflations, so the end result if each compartment is airtight but not strong enough to withstand a big impact.

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2 minutes ago, iainb said:

Why? What happens to them?

The speedway regulations state, inter alia:

Must be inspected 6 years after installation, thereafter annually by the SCB
Track Inspectors , to certify that it remains fit for purpose.

In short, they deteriorate. Multiple repairs, strap stitching loosens, fabric weakens.

Nothing lasts for ever, and the APD is so fundamental to safety it has to be in serviceable condition.

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33 minutes ago, Trackerman48 said:

Bob you are way of the mark with the price for a new air fence for a track the size of eastbourne it would be just under 20k. 

 

 

 

 

I think Eastbourne said £25,000--to have spare bags

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1 minute ago, Richard Weston said:

I think Eastbourne said £25,000--to have spare bags

Seems a bit excessive to have to buy a whole new fence in one go... why don't clubs buy a few panels a year to spread the cost or even lease them like companies do with other high cost assets?

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2 minutes ago, Richard Weston said:

I think Eastbourne said £25,000--to have spare bags

You put all info on website few weeks ago. Maybe you can share link?  

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34 minutes ago, iainb said:

Oh, OK... they don't take them down and store them in a shed then?

You would need a small army of volunteers and around 5/6 hours per bend. Most are only taken in at the end of the season.

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19 minutes ago, Petecc said:

You would need a small army of volunteers and around 5/6 hours per bend. Most are only taken in at the end of the season.

Or £25k every 6 years? This is a ticking time bomb for many clubs then!

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1 hour ago, iainb said:

Why? What happens to them?

Probably the same as you, deteriorate.

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1 minute ago, tyretrax said:

Probably the same as you, deteriorate.

Like a fine wine I get better with age. I protect myself in the bad weather... by sitting in a shed :lol:

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