Ghosty 500 Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Killing team sport using my home town wolves as an example Sam masters rides for Edinburgh .Nick morris rides for Leicester. Ryan Douglas rides for Scunthorpe Steve Worral rides for Poole. Drew kemp rides for Poole .leon flint rides for Berwick, only Luke Becker rides only for wolves, right there is why team speedway has died in Britain, how is anyone new to the sport supposed to follow their club when it’s just a glorified swingers club, speedway has many other issues as why it is dying but as far as team speedway goes this has killed the team concept Spot on there Deanno, G.B. speedway needs at huge influx of riders just to give it any credibility. The fact is as things are riders love it - double the wage packets with little extra expense - they would not take to kindly to no doubling up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,275 Posted June 17, 2022 6 hours ago, chunky said: Let's not forget that Andy Grahame qualified for both the BLRC and NLRC the same year... Indeed he did... But 15 others didnt the same year... That is unfortunately the possibility we face today... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted June 17, 2022 Would one big league make a difference, ? something has to change that is for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,983 Posted June 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Sidney the robin said: Would one big league make a difference, ? something has to change that is for sure. If there is so much doubling up/down and guests etc wouldn't a big league just end up a bigger farce than two smaller ones ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topaz325 1,856 Posted June 17, 2022 On 6/15/2022 at 9:17 AM, lucifer sam said: Typical BSF negativity. Great 2022 season so far, with most clubs doing good business. Thank goodness those on here are not reflective of those enjoying their speedway on the terraces. Mark Lemon has serious concerns about the make up of the Leagues in an item in this weeks Speedway Star. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THE DEAN MACHINE 4,742 Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Ghosty said: Spot on there Deanno, G.B. speedway needs at huge influx of riders just to give it any credibility. The fact is as things are riders love it - double the wage packets with little extra expense - they would not take to kindly to no doubling up! Right there is speedway is run by the riders for the riders, we need to decide are we a team sport or are we a Motox type sport which is a competitor sport not a fan one ? We can’t carry on with this charade posing as team sport when it’s a team sport in name only Edited June 17, 2022 by THE DEAN MACHINE 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glenantony 52 Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) 16 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Killing team sport using my home town wolves as an example Sam masters rides for Edinburgh .Nick morris rides for Leicester. Ryan Douglas rides for Scunthorpe Steve Worral rides for Poole. Drew kemp rides for Poole .leon flint rides for Berwick, only Luke Becker rides only for wolves, right there is why team speedway has died in Britain, how is anyone new to the sport supposed to follow their club when it’s just a glorified swingers club, speedway has many other issues as why it is dying but as far as team speedway goes this has killed the team concept The last showing on Eurosport - British Speedway's shop window - had an interview at the end of the meeting with Ipswich captain Danny King - then, in the championship round-up, had an interview with Poole captain Danny King! Explain that to a casual sport fan, whilst retaining some credibility? It's been necessary due to lack of riders but the extent of the doubling up has to end Edited June 17, 2022 by glenantony 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ch958 2,395 Posted June 17, 2022 we have to look at the riders available to GB.speedway as a whole and find a way forward, whether its 2 leagues or 1. The vital thing for next year, if they do nothing else is give NL boys a way into the second division. Yes, some will say weakening but some of those NL boys will thrive on the opportunity and put on a good show. One thing 1 league will do is give the boys twice the meetings, a chance to score well within those meetings and provide much needed variety to the crowds. Sure there'll be stragglers, 2/3 point averages but there always was. As I said in another post for every Briggs and Mauger there was a Roger Hill or a Ken Wakefield who probably only dreamed of beating the top boys. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cowboy cookie returns? 747 Posted June 17, 2022 8 hours ago, glenantony said: The last showing on Eurosport - British Speedway's shop window - had an interview at the end of the meeting with Ipswich captain Danny King - then, in the championship round-up, had an interview with Poole captain Danny King! Explain that to a casual sport fan, whilst retaining some credibility? It's been necessary due to lack of riders but the extent of the doubling up has to end It's a farce! The lack of riders is purely down to the BSPA/L there was a structure in place not perfect but far better than we have now when every BL & NL team had a junior side. Most clubs would have a squad of 9 to 12 riders. Plenty to fill in for missing reserves and number 8 to cover Rider replacement. It wasn't perfect but there were certainly more riders and opportunities for riders to race. For several years the NL even managed to run without guests as it was banned, forward thinking or what. Its sad that the reason for the state of speedway in the country is the governing body. You can try and blame the GPs or Poland but the rot set in decades ago. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trees 2,814 Posted June 17, 2022 19 hours ago, Ghosty said: Spot on there Deanno, G.B. speedway needs at huge influx of riders just to give it any credibility. The fact is as things are riders love it - double the wage packets with little extra expense - they would not take to kindly to no doubling up! When they're racing for your team who cares that they race elsewhere? Not me .... Riders have been racing for numerous teams for years ..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trees 2,814 Posted June 17, 2022 9 hours ago, topaz325 said: Mark Lemon has serious concerns about the make up of the Leagues in an item in this weeks Speedway Star. Has he provided an answer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topaz325 1,856 Posted June 17, 2022 Just now, Trees said: Has he provided an answer? No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trees 2,814 Posted June 17, 2022 Just now, topaz325 said: No. Well that's great then ..... half an interview! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topaz325 1,856 Posted June 17, 2022 Just now, Trees said: Well that's great then ..... half an interview! Does anyone have a definitive plan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cowboy cookie returns? 747 Posted June 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Trees said: When they're racing for your team who cares that they race elsewhere? Not me .... Riders have been racing for numerous teams for years ..... It does make a huge difference. If you're trying to market the sport to people outside of speedway to ensure its survival, them having to explain that the riders in your team can ride for any other club in the UK under the doubling up/guest regulations & that their performance for a rival club could impact your own season or worse if an injury is suffered. It made a difference to me and many other 1000s who gave up on the sport. And just because it's happened for years doesn't make it right does it? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
