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Erik Persson stays with Piraterna in 2027

Hannah Grunwald stays with Landshut in 2027.

I can't remember.

What was it this year ?

He does deserve his place tbh, I can't deny it either. I'm keeping faith in Mayfield pulling off the Woryna deal because a 1-5 of Doyle, Kemp, King, Brennan and Woryna makes sense at this point going by rumours and projections in regards to other Clubs 1-5's. It even looks like a very well balanced 1-5 at first glance.

I'm very interested in Kemp purely due to the fact that the League will likely see the vast majority of Clubs have a weak tail or at worst very weak reserves. Kemp should be having a field day against the inexperienced riders whether they're new Rising Stars to the League or U21 Foreign Youngsters who haven't ridden a British track.

He’s an issue on his average but I don’t want to keep going on about him as it’ll look like I have it in for him which I don’t at all. He was fabulous this year and done far better than I expected. He deserves his place really.

I was going to also mention something about "the cartel" but decided not to bother..

If the Club does miss out on Cairns then is it too late to pull the plug on any deal for King considering all deals would be subject to approval?

Quite right Ouch. Sorry, Mike! 😜

Chequebook clubs!!! The Aces certainly are not one of them... What they are though, is almost like a charity given they take huge gambles on riders who may not have made it, like Bewley, Fricke, Ben Cook, Lidsey, Kurtz, etc and then single handedly nurture them into the riders they become later in their careers .. Then, for the greater good, they allow riders to leave so other teams can be competitive.. (Or something like that)...

TBF Kemp can ride Foxhall very well so there is that. We saw how Rushen likes the NSS during the British final. Suits his style to an absolute T and he’d thrive there (Sorry Lynn). They’d be odds on favourites again if they look anything like that. Edit: Would leave Belle Vue 4.86 so would be after the same riders as us, Kemp and Howarth.

I was going to put Howarth in but I assume he's at Leicester considering Morris is rumoured for Northampton and Kemp wouldn't fit with Douglas, Fricke, D. Thompson and Masters considering the No.6 has to be a minimum 3.00 Rider. As for Belle Vue I assume the plan would be Kurtz, Bewley, B. Cook, Zischke or Rushen + a 4.00 Pointer, Cairns and a RS.

I agree re Cairns which I mentioned in the post above yours. Trouble is we can’t compete against these chequebook clubs so we’ll no doubt lose that battle and he’ll stay where he is. 😉

What's even worse is if we don't sign Cairns because we could be looking at King @ No.5 with a couple of riders out of their depth at reserve. With that scenario in-play, It makes the Cairns deal the top priority imo and whatever Belle Vue offer, Mayfield will have to keep upping the ante until the Aces give in even if it leaves less money to spend on the Witches engine room.

Yes, Monday 26th October 😀

I’ll take team two but with Howarth at 2. Just goes to show that if we don’t get Cairns at 6 on a 3 point average and have to go for someone with a higher GSA we’re even more buggered! Will be interesting to see how Belle Vue build if they try and fit both Kurtz and Bewley. You’re talking 17.78 just for those two!

If it's a 37.00 Limit and it's not possible to get Kemp or Rushen @ No.2 then I'm not sure the Woryna route is the right option as we'd likely have a very long tail. Best case scenario's imo. Team 1 1. J. Doyle 8.62 2. A. Ellis 5.98 3. D. King 7.17 4. T. Brennan 5.76 5. R. Tungate 6.42 or M. Janowski 6.06 6. W. Cairns 3.00 7. RS = 36.95 or 36.59 Team 2 1. J. Doyle 8.62 2. D. Kemp 4.92 or C. Rushen 4.74 3. D. King 7.17 4. T. Brennan 5.76 5. K. Woryna 7.50 6. W. Cairns 3.00 7. RS = 36.97 / 36.79

Glasgow had a top 4 similar to that, but what did they win 🤔

4.95 if we’re talking 37 which I think it is otherwise Northampton are nearly a couple of points below the limit if it’s 38. If Woryna doesn’t happen, we’re kind of buggered and King will be second heatleader.

That's where I've gone wrong then. I was taking them off the 2026 Rider Statistics page that's one place above the 2026 declarations. Kemp, Howarth and Rushen are all on GSA's under 4.95.

Would take Fletcher at Berwick if we need a 2 point rider.

Irrelevant to this thread as that druggie clown won't ever be back at Glasgow after him and his nose ruined our 2024 season. Double no after he let his wife make a right show of herself giving it laldy about him being on the wrong painkillers! For the record it was a 20 month ban from April 2024, with a £2,000 fine and him having to pay for regular drug tests to prove he's clean. I'd be very surprised if he had paid the fine or taken the tests, as the chances of him being signed anywhere at the end of the 2 years are slim, which would mean that his ban has not yet started.

https://britishspeedway.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/10/p26_issue_23.pdf The last declaration has 8.62 for Doyley? Doyle 8.62 4.95 King 7.17 Brennan 5.76 Woryna 7.50 Cairns 3.00 RS

I've got the following GSA's from the SpeedwayGB site. Doyley 8.40 King 7.35 -> 7.17 after 2.5% Reduction Ellis 6.13 -> 5.98 after 2.5% Reduction Brennan 5.91 -> 5.76 after 2.5% Reduction Cairns 3.77 -> 3.00 after 25% Reduction after moving out of the Rising Star scheme. = 30.31 6.69 or 7.69 left depending on a 37.00 or 38.00 Limit.