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The CL game was a "must win" to get into the seeded top eight... citeh!...

I would say that less than 0.1% of the population (80,000?) know who the GP riders are.. And of that 80,000 around just circa 20,000 actually visit the 14 tracks regularly.. And as for fans bringing others along? Do businesses who I use expect me to bring in customers to them? Or do they advertise themselves nationally so people know they exist?

That was my point regarding cup games or less meaningful matches.

Even i was surprised at the amount of empty seats on Wednesday at the emptyhad

They had over 20,000 empty seats on Wednesday in their CL game so probably not...

Ive never understood the comparison with football, as you say fans turn out season after season even for clubs who are only making up the numbers and really have no chance of ever getting any success clubs like Fulham, Bournemouth, Burnley have next to no chance of getting top four let alone winning leagues fa cups, Palace only won their first trophy last season, no manipulation of team strengths to try to have all teams equal, but fans of the lower reaches clubs are there in numbers home and away, speedway lost that tribalism a long time ago.

Thats it I suppose JP is a real entertainer and especially around Scunny. So long as the racing is its usual top drawer at home, win, lose or draw thats the deal we accept. Away will be a different matter. Can see JP being a bit of a lone gun, but exciting to watch. In a way it reminds me of Halifax in the Carter era. Kenny always leading the scorecharts and taking on & beating the oppo No1s. The rest of the Dukes not following his lead. When JPs average changes it will be vital to come up with a No2 who can back him Home & Away in those Big Heats in my opinion.

I disagree that less than 0.1% of fans who follow the sport are drawn to the big names. We’ve had Ipswich fans stating many times how crowds increased when Jason & Emil came on board. Maybe we could do some kind of test where we run on a Sunday without the big names. If they charged less admission then it can only be a great success - can’t it? We could all do our own national marketing campaign at no cost to the sport. Just ask 50 family, friends, colleagues etc to come along. There’s no better salesperson available than us speedway nuts. A million extra fans, brilliant.

No idea, all Landshut have said is his signing completes the squad in the senior positions.

Dont the home fans sing you have only come to see City? It is certainly the case that tickets for matches at more readily available for smaller games so the opposition is a big factor especially when it comes to cup competitions where the tickets are not included in the cost of a season ticket. I would also suggest that my team Poole would generate a bigger crowd than normal if it was one league.

Plenty of empty seats when not on TV, too... "Big Names" are only that to the less than 0.1% of the polulation who follow the sport... They mean nothing to the 99.9+% of the population who don't.... What an opportunity for growth though if you could make admission affordable for more people, allied to a properly joined up national marketing campaign to try and make many, many millions of people aware that they have a Speedway track within a 45 minute drive of their home...

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Does that mean he's no longer French?

Having said that though, they'll have Josh Pickering and he is worth watching, wherever he rides.

It won't be democratic if the WEF globalists get their way

Six days apart which was the norm at Oxford due to the running in both the premiership and championship. I doubt very much the meeting being shown on BSN would have made up the difference in attendance between the two meetings. The so called big names don’t really draw people in anymore, I expect if you asked people in Manchester who Brady Kurtz is nearly everybody wouldn’t have a clue. Belle Vue have two of the best riders in the world but when looking at the empty seats on the tv matches they are hardly drawing the punters in.

Two meetings in a week and one of them being shown on BSN. I reckon more saw The Aces meeting just not necessarily at the track.

Mr Negativity is back I see

Oxford Glasgow Redcar Plymouth Poole Workington Berwick Edinburgh Scunthorpe Top 4 hard to separate, injuries to top 3 riders in any team will be hard to replace and decide season, same riders never end a season fit or in the team

Not always, went to Oxford v Belle Vue last season and the crowd was awful. Next match was against Plymouth and the crowd was much bigger.

Local(ish) derby's are just as likely to attract bigger crowds.

I recently upset someone and they sent me a one word email response. I was surprised that they couldn’t spell ‘can’t’!

Landshut have signed Lukas Fienhage.

I suppose though that every track has a different levels of finance coming in and outgoings depending on sponsors rent and ownership . Eg Glasgow/Poole to Scunthorpe .

We all have different views , after all it’s a democratic country However god help us all if that shower are in government. Now back to the speedway .