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For me personally I was just too cold to enjoy this meeting whatever the calibre of racing.........which wasnt what we are used to at Scunny and neither could you expect it to be. Hats off to all the riders who gave it a go in difficult conditions, hats off to Rob and the track staff who worked tirelessly over the festive period to make sure the meeting did happen, hats off to jerran who came so close to winning despite what wanna thinks about his determination......he could well surprise you all at Newport and I for one hope he does!! Good luck to all the riders in the Classic for a safe meeting and bravo to all those who stand out in the cold to watch it!!

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altho i enjoyed my first visit to scunny i have to wonder if a meeting in the winter is really worth it.little passing obviously but speedway bikes are not built for cold weather.after 5 riders pulled out by heat 16 that was enough for me.got home to a hot chilli and glass of whisky.congrats to scunny for putting on a meeting as best as they could tho and il visit again in warmer conditions!!! :rolleyes:

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Wanna,

 

Were you even there?

 

I am with Montie, Wanna you really have no understanding of what its all about. Jerran is a young up and coming rider with a confidence and determination that you could only dream off. I take it Wanna is short for wanna be :)

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Anyway, it also brought another thought to mind. Referees submit reports to the SCB after every meeting, commenting on stuff like the state of the track, health and safety provisions etc etc... I wonder who is going to take the blame for the lack of fire extinguishers at the start line? Will McGregor tie his own noose, as at the end of the day, the buck stops with him on the day, or will he put the blame on the Scunthorpe organisation? Would love to get a copy of that report and see what it says.

 

The onus is on the Clerk of the Course to ensure that anti-fire equipment is sited properly NOT the Referee SR14.2.1. The Referee should inspect equipment to be used during the meeting SR14.9.1 - nothing is said about it having to be insitu when it is inspected.

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I had to laugh at Jerran Harts comments on the BSPA site.

 

"I came here to win but 2nd is a good effort".

 

Who on earth does he think he is? He was never going to win that field. Yes done well no doubt but to say what he said just made me laugh.

 

Wonder if Niels Kristian and Mads are worried about his presence for the Classic on Sunday?

 

Wanna,

 

Were you even there?

 

How can you make such comments about our Jerran.....obviously you are not aware of this lads guts and enthusiasm.....he rode exactly how we at Scunny would expect him to. Well done Jerran and good luck at the Classic!

 

I am with Montie, Wanna you really have no understanding of what its all about. Jerran is a young up and coming rider with a confidence and determination that you could only dream off. I take it Wanna is short for wanna be :)

 

 

Perhaps someone in regular contact with young jerran can let him kno just exactly what newports official webmaster is saying about him and that he now has the backing of most of the rest of us as a result

 

i have met him on a few occassions and he is a nice lad. fair play to him for having the right attitude and determination that so many lack these days

 

good luck jerran, make him eat his words

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Perhaps someone in regular contact with young jerran can let him kno just exactly what newports official webmaster is saying about him and that he now has the backing of most of the rest of us as a result

 

i have met him on a few occassions and he is a nice lad. fair play to him for having the right attitude and determination that so many lack these days

 

good luck jerran, make him eat his words

 

 

oh right, a so wanna is Lewis Parsons, cheers for that.

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First & foremost a very big well done to every single one of you who toughed it out in them conditions. Braver than me :approve:

 

Secondly yeah Wanna bold, maybe daft comments to make but if he'd said 'I know I'm going to be out of my depth' you would have been giving him bucketloads. I get wound up when people post 'give him a break, he's a young BRIT'. Nationality doesn't come into it. He's a young un trying to make his way in his chosen profession and credit him for that.

 

Lastly the Barker fire/lack of extiguishers. Maybe some of his previous antics, which I've no doubt he will regret in later years, came back to haunt him. Notice there were no volunteers to pi$$ on him even though he was on fire :wink:

 

Mind you it would probably have been frozen before it hit the target :lol:

 

Happy New Year everyone.

 

 

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Having traveled 300 miles to see a speedway meeting is keen, ok the weather was cold but the track staff did an amazing job to get things going, and power to them for doing it and giving up their time.

The track was ride able and some of the races were good, some had it and some didnt, Hart rode well and was justified his place, Doolan should have been in the final he has the merit to be favourite.

barker showed his pace and was fast on second bike, the final should have been a pure classic, exactly what the fans went to see, put up with the cold have fun and support the riders that made an effort to please the paying cuctomers, thats what we all went for, if its football you want go there true speedway fans go to watch four rider battleing to win, and I dont think we were dissapointed.

What I am angry about is 2 fold,

The rules state there should be fire extinguishers in place, and no one has mentioned that there actually was one by the rostrum and the other by the gate, track met the rules.

the fact that when the fire started no one bothered to help Ben, when Methanol goes up its quick and dangerous, the bike covers were going well and they all watched, it was a member of the public that had to pass over the fence an extinguisher to ben whos gloves were actually on fire to put his own bike out. THIS WAS UNACCEPTABLE.

If his kevlars had been on fire it was season over for BEN ( FACT)

 

Now to the referee,

His conduct was again totally UNACCEPTABLE.

He had no concept of the situation, he had the chance to correct the situation, firstly to DQ ben, then change his mind was not correct, he had made up his mind he was cold and wanted to go home.

HE STOLE from the fans a potentially classic race, no one would have minded to allow the race to be put off a few minuites, the fans showed this by the reactions. the start marshall trying to pull Barker forward for the re run was what paying people wanted, and should be appreciated.

 

AS to you the punter its time we all wrote letters to the SCB and voiced our feelings on this matter, dont forget it is the paying public thast pay for the officials, Mr MGregor should not be allowed to look after a meeting until he is re trained.

Just take 5 minuites and write to Graham Reeves, if they are not informed of fans displeasure the SCB ACU cannot act.

I have done mine and it will be on his desk come next week. support your riders in these matters if you want better run Speedway meetings.

 

New riders are having hard enough times in getting sponsors / support etc how can you explain this travesty to someone new to our loved sport.

Get rid of refs like him and get the sport moving forward in a positive manner.

 

As for the track they should at least appologise to BB for the damage to his bike

 

 

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I had to laugh at Jerran Harts comments on the BSPA site.

 

...

 

has sent invites out to drac, chris brown and the bsf mods to come to his 21st bday party

 

Maybe Wanna ought to invite Jerran Hart to his 21st birthday party too...by the way, how many years down the line is it 'til Wanna's 21st?

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Having traveled 300 miles to see a speedway meeting is keen, ok the weather was cold but the track staff did an amazing job to get things going, and power to them for doing it and giving up their time.

The track was ride able and some of the races were good, some had it and some didnt, Hart rode well and was justified his place, Doolan should have been in the final he has the merit to be favourite.

barker showed his pace and was fast on second bike, the final should have been a pure classic, exactly what the fans went to see, put up with the cold have fun and support the riders that made an effort to please the paying cuctomers, thats what we all went for, if its football you want go there true speedway fans go to watch four rider battleing to win, and I dont think we were dissapointed.

What I am angry about is 2 fold,

The rules state there should be fire extinguishers in place, and no one has mentioned that there actually was one by the rostrum and the other by the gate, track met the rules.

the fact that when the fire started no one bothered to help Ben, when Methanol goes up its quick and dangerous, the bike covers were going well and they all watched, it was a member of the public that had to pass over the fence an extinguisher to ben whos gloves were actually on fire to put his own bike out. THIS WAS UNACCEPTABLE.

If his kevlars had been on fire it was season over for BEN ( FACT)

 

Now to the referee,

His conduct was again totally UNACCEPTABLE.

He had no concept of the situation, he had the chance to correct the situation, firstly to DQ ben, then change his mind was not correct, he had made up his mind he was cold and wanted to go home.

HE STOLE from the fans a potentially classic race, no one would have minded to allow the race to be put off a few minuites, the fans showed this by the reactions. the start marshall trying to pull Barker forward for the re run was what paying people wanted, and should be appreciated.

 

AS to you the punter its time we all wrote letters to the SCB and voiced our feelings on this matter, dont forget it is the paying public thast pay for the officials, Mr MGregor should not be allowed to look after a meeting until he is re trained.

Just take 5 minuites and write to Graham Reeves, if they are not informed of fans displeasure the SCB ACU cannot act.

I have done mine and it will be on his desk come next week. support your riders in these matters if you want better run Speedway meetings.

 

New riders are having hard enough times in getting sponsors / support etc how can you explain this travesty to someone new to our loved sport.

Get rid of refs like him and get the sport moving forward in a positive manner.

 

As for the track they should at least appologise to BB for the damage to his bike

If you think Ben Barker made an effort for anyone but himself you need to seek proffesional help. as for the damage to his bike, Scunthorpe speedway should charge him for the fire extinguisher as the fire was casued by his own Piss Poor preparation. "What goes around comes around "

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Very laughable comments.

 

I am just wondering how a minus 4 point PL reserve could possibly he was disappointed he didn't win? Surely second in that class of a field is a good enough acheivement for him?

 

More pathetic comments from the usual people on this forum who jump down peoples throats for stating their opinion. People jumped down Darcy Wards throat when he wasn' best pleased because he didn't win the PLRC. Whats the difference?

 

Hart clearly does have some talent you could see that when he rode for Newport's 2008 PL team but some of the people on here need to chill out.

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The onus is on the Clerk of the Course to ensure that anti-fire equipment is sited properly NOT the Referee SR14.2.1. The Referee should inspect equipment to be used during the meeting SR14.9.1 - nothing is said about it having to be insitu when it is inspected.

I take those points, however, the buck stops at the top, in my opinion, as per 13.7 - "At a Meeting all Officials are subject to the authority of the Referee..." and 14.9 - "The MEETING REFEREE exercises supreme control of a Meeting..."

 

Yes I can see McGregor giving the Clerk of the Course a flea in his ear, but when it comes to the report of what went on, it's the referee that controls the meeting....

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oh right, a so wanna is Lewis Parsons, cheers for that.

Problem?

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Some have made excuses for all sorts of things, as to why this wasn't such a good meeting. And the same people have moaned about the travelling they had to do in order to attend. Even some of the riders have commented that the track was affected by the weather. Just what do you all expect from a meeting in the middle of winter? That is why the speedway season is from March to October, because of the probability that the weather is not condusive to the sport outside those dates. It's not rocket science. Go, enjoy.

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If you think Ben Barker made an effort for anyone but himself you need to seek proffesional help. as for the damage to his bike, Scunthorpe speedway should charge him for the fire extinguisher as the fire was casued by his own Piss Poor preparation. "What goes around comes around "

You keep posting about his poor preperation, do you have any evidence? I saw his bikes close up before the meeting and they were faultless. Fires happen, split fuel pipe in the cold, slight miss-fire etc can set them off. So please enlighten all of us as to where Barker went wrong.

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