PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted October 18, 2012 well if you are happy with Tai good luck to you , I personally cant see why he is even considered to be worthy . and from my own point of view there are now no british riders in the GP so I'm not really interested in watching it and like many more I suspect wont be going to Cardiff SO you only went to see Chris Harris? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted October 18, 2012 Currently I don't think there is a British rider deserving of GP status. I'm very hopeful of Craig Cook and Richie Worrall for the future and would certainly be giving them as much top end experience as possible, it seems to me to be pointless including riders in the world cup team who you know too well are out of their depth (Bridger and Kennett especially). Having said that, It's nice to still have some interest, a GP series consisting entirely of foreign riders would be of no interest to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted October 18, 2012 well if you are happy with Tai good luck to you , I personally cant see why he is even considered to be worthy . and from my own point of view there are now no british riders in the GP so I'm not really interested in watching it and like many more I suspect wont be going to Cardiff Well - for those unhappy with Tai - we should have a proper qualifying System like they did years ago. That way Riders would Qualify if they were good enough and if they weren't - TOUGH!! Gifting people places on a whim does NOT seem to me to be the right or fair way to arrive at a World Champion. BUT - this is Speedway. :sad: 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
New Science 1,059 Posted October 18, 2012 They were the obvious 4 tbh....MJJ may have snucked in but his performance in the GP challenge and suspect UK form probably blew that for him allowing Tai the nod to be the UK entry.. As much as I like Tai as a rider,the way BSI stated his case(good league form and a good world cup playoff)was a tad embarrassing.Compare it to Jepson jensens credentials (probable world u21 champion,an actual GP win this year and a world cup win).Yes politics and revenue streams do come in to it,not that BSI will publicly admit it. Although on the flip side having a British rider to support in the series home and abroad does add something to the series for me.Rather than watching as a neutral, I will proudly wear my union jack,(without a british rider there didn't seem much point and will display me 6 foot home made Tai woffinden flag at all the GP,S I attend.Personally I think Tai's reputation being out of the GP,s has improved while Chris Harris has seen his reputation plummet by actually being in the series,BSI's big problem will be if Woffinden struggles like most predict,on the face of it he seems like Britain's last hope Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted October 18, 2012 As much as I like Tai as a rider,the way BSI stated his case(good league form and a good world cup playoff)was a tad embarrassing.Compare it to Jepson jensens credentials (probable world u21 champion,an actual GP win this year and a world cup win).Yes politics and revenue streams do come in to it,not that BSI will publicly admit it. Although on the flip side having a British rider to support in the series home and abroad does add something to the series for me.Rather than watching as a neutral, I will proudly wear my union jack,(without a british rider there didn't seem much point and will display me 6 foot home made Tai woffinden flag at all the GP,S I attend.Personally I think Tai's reputation being out of the GP,s has improved while Chris Harris has seen his reputation plummet by actually being in the series,BSI's big problem will be if Woffinden struggles like most predict,on the face of it he seems like Britain's last hope How right you are. :mad: I always thought Sport was about competition What do I know................................? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy jimmy 298 Posted October 18, 2012 Maybe MJJ turned it down? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jhproductions 4 Posted October 19, 2012 Currently I don't think there is a British rider deserving of GP status. I'm very hopeful of Craig Cook and Richie Worrall for the future and would certainly be giving them as much top end experience as possible, it seems to me to be pointless including riders in the world cup team who you know too well are out of their depth (Bridger and Kennett especially). Having said that, It's nice to still have some interest, a GP series consisting entirely of foreign riders would be of no interest to me. One more to keep tabs on is Robert Lambert. At just 14 years old this kid looks quality. Obviously he's only riding competively in Germany, but he seems to already look beyond his years! If he progresses as he is at this time then I feel he could be a great hope for GB speedway in years to come. It's just a shame that the rules are keeping him away from competetive racing here, but at least Germany are allowing him to get proper racing under his belt against tought opposition too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted October 19, 2012 One more to keep tabs on is Robert Lambert. At just 14 years old this kid looks quality. Obviously he's only riding competively in Germany, but he seems to already look beyond his years! If he progresses as he is at this time then I feel he could be a great hope for GB speedway in years to come. It's just a shame that the rules are keeping him away from competetive racing here, but at least Germany are allowing him to get proper racing under his belt against tought opposition too! Yes - this is where we are lacking. We need to get Track time for youngsters much more freely available. Difficult I know - but it needs to happen. Our (British) youngsters start of at a disadvantage from day one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jhproductions 4 Posted October 19, 2012 Yes - this is where we are lacking. We need to get Track time for youngsters much more freely available. Difficult I know - but it needs to happen. Our (British) youngsters start of at a disadvantage from day one. Yes for sure. We need the Danish model of the 80cc league, but let's face it, it's never going to happen. The nearest we have, and will have until the authorities pull their collective fingers out, is Grasstrack, but even so, no major 'stars' have come out of that scene in my opinon for a while now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShadowCaptain 57 Posted October 20, 2012 Not sure how many high-quality Danes there are in cricket, or rugby, or tennis, or swimming, or athletics. There are lots of sports available and easily accessed in this country, so the potential pool for an 80cc league is probably quite small. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryW 1,178 Posted October 20, 2012 Not sure how many high-quality Danes there are in cricket, or rugby, or tennis, or swimming, or athletics. There are lots of sports available and easily accessed in this country, so the potential pool for an 80cc league is probably quite small. Rounding a little bit for each nation, but.... British population - 62,000,000 Danish population - 5,500,000 Damn those crazy Danes and their tiny population for their lack of love for cricket and rugby and so on.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,994 Posted October 20, 2012 Rounding a little bit for each nation, but.... British population - 62,000,000 Danish population - 5,500,000 Damn those crazy Danes and their tiny population for their lack of love for cricket and rugby and so on.... Exactly.Think there are a number of high quality Danish footballers,cyclists and handballers for example.It isn't as if the only opportunity to participate in sport is 80cc speedway.They also have a fair number of MotoX tracks and produce decent riders i think.One track is actually right next to Esbjergs 80cc track and i think i am right in saying that Nicklas Porsings brother gave up speedway to do MotoX Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted October 20, 2012 THE Danes get much better funding and government support than Brits do, especially for speedway. Would love to see Robert Lambert go to Denmark for a week with Erik Gundersen. This is a critical time in his development and would benefit hugely from having Gundo teach him the ropes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5 FURROW 97 Posted October 20, 2012 THE Danes get much better funding and government support than Brits do, especially for speedway. Would love to see Robert Lambert go to Denmark for a week with Erik Gundersen. This is a critical time in his development and would benefit hugely from having Gundo teach him the ropes. How right you are Phil I've been to many of the 80cc meetings when Erik is in attendance and he is brilliant with the kids why the hell the BSPA can't take this on board god only knows Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghostwalker 1,859 Posted October 20, 2012 (edited) Not sure how many high-quality Danes there are in cricket, or rugby, or tennis, or swimming, or athletics. There are lots of sports available and easily accessed in this country, so the potential pool for an 80cc league is probably quite small. Caroline Woznicki. Former world nr1. Currently top 15 in the world. Edited October 20, 2012 by Ghostwalker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites