Starman2006 2,356 Posted January 12, 2014 twisted logic! Good horse that was... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Smith 5,675 Posted January 12, 2014 Fact for Steve Shovlar not opinion Sweden - 2012 Ward 7.94 Iversen 9.22 Woffinden 6.00 Sweden - 2013 Ward 8.73 Iversen 8.71 Poland - 2012 Ward 7.36 Iversen 8.52 Woffinden 6.30 Poland - 2013 Ward 7.62 Iversen 9.46 Woffinden 9.33 UK - 2012 Ward 9.76 Iversen 8.84 Woffinden 8.80 UK - 2013 Ward 9.07 Iversen 9.12 Woffinden 9.20 Clearly shows from FACTS that Iversen is many steps ahead of Ward. Ward is still young and has all the potential to be better but right now he's not. In 2013 Woffinden shows as the biggest improver too. These are facts, enjoy them Steve 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) Gavan and Steve Brum have just lost the argument. Can't argue with sliders post. Fact. Edited January 12, 2014 by Steve Shovlar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,356 Posted January 12, 2014 Fact for Steve Shovlar not opinion Sweden - 2012 Ward 7.94 Iversen 9.22 Woffinden 6.00 Sweden - 2013 Ward 8.73 Iversen 8.71 Poland - 2012 Ward 7.36 Iversen 8.52 Woffinden 6.30 Poland - 2013 Ward 7.62 Iversen 9.46 Woffinden 9.33 UK - 2012 Ward 9.76 Iversen 8.84 Woffinden 8.80 UK - 2013 Ward 9.07 Iversen 9.12 Woffinden 9.20 Clearly shows from FACTS that Iversen is many steps ahead of Ward. Ward is still young and has all the potential to be better but right now he's not. In 2013 Woffinden shows as the biggest improver too. These are facts, enjoy them Steve Yep, and how many meetings did Darcy miss through injury and how many did NKI ride?? you lot will be eating cardboard come next October... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kester 3,036 Posted January 12, 2014 Gavan and Steve Brum have just lost the argument Fact. This 'my dad is bigger than you dad' argument is boring - Fact. They're both great riders, wait till they've both retired and see where they ended up. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted January 12, 2014 Yep, and how many meetings did Darcy miss through injury and how many did NKI ride?? you lot will be eating cardboard come next October... Darcy is a team rider and often finishes second to his partner. Means a lower average Meanwhile back on topic, are Pirates going to win the league again in 2014? Looking good! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kester 3,036 Posted January 12, 2014 Yep, and how many meetings did Darcy miss through injury and how many did NKI ride?? you lot will be eating cardboard come next October... Injuries, and avoiding them, are part of the sport. There've been any talented riders who haven't fulfilled potential because of injuries. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Smith 5,675 Posted January 12, 2014 Darcy is a team rider and often finishes second to his partner. Means a lower average Meanwhile back on topic, are Pirates going to win the league again in 2014? Looking good! Or it could mean Darcy's crap at gating and crashing lots from over riding which was very paramount in 2013 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,356 Posted January 12, 2014 Or it could mean Darcy's crap at gating and crashing lots from over riding which was very paramount in 2013 But won't be in 2014.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted January 12, 2014 Or it could simply mean it took him a while to get back in the scoring groove after missing half the season through injury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YerRopes 3,009 Posted January 12, 2014 Gavan it was me that introduced the Chris Holder average (9.25 - when he got injured), as the argument/opinion as to who was the 'better' rider seemed to be taking the route of who had the highest average and therefore who was the better rider? ie Darcy or Tai? I was trying to illustrate that averages can be misleading as well as also giving an indication as to the best rider at any given time. Holder's finishing EL average of 9.25 therefore makes him a better rider than Tai, Darcy or NKI!!! Fact!! or is it?! As this is a Poole Pirates 2014 thread, then I'm entitled to ask/state/wind-up? surely?! What was Darcy's EL average when he got injured - less than 7.00 I believe... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,815 Posted January 12, 2014 you lot will be eating cardboard come next October... So you keep on saying, but its irrelevant as the discussion is about who is the best rider right now, not in nine months time. Most people would agree that Darcy could potentially be the best rider in the world for several years if he can behaves correctly off track, starting in 2014. But based on 2013 he isn't yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,356 Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) So you keep on saying, but its irrelevant as the discussion is about who is the best rider right now, not in nine months time. Most people would agree that Darcy could potentially be the best rider in the world for several years if he can behaves correctly off track, starting in 2014. But based on 2013 he isn't yet. Yeh, but this time next year, some won't be murmuring a word... Edited January 12, 2014 by Starman2006 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Panda 366 Posted January 12, 2014 So you keep on saying, but its irrelevant as the discussion is about who is the best rider right now, not in nine months time. Most people would agree that Darcy could potentially be the best rider in the world for several years if he can behaves correctly off track, starting in 2014. But based on 2013 he isn't yet. Sorry but this is the Pirates 2014 thread not a discussion for my rider is better than yours..............some people really need to get a life............. RP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woz01 3,589 Posted January 12, 2014 Yep, and how many meetings did Darcy miss through injury and how many did NKI ride?? you lot will be eating cardboard come next October... Tai rode the 2nd half of the season injured! I wonder what his average wouldve been fully fit! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
