orion 7,618 Posted January 8, 2014 I think when it comes to work the majority do. I don't know one person who would take a 50% wage cut, and with loss of a PL sign on fee plus wages it wouldn't be far off that for Nick. Depends if other people are making money out of the deal i guess and i expect that is the real reason he's sign for someone else ...at 19 and only having only to wait for a few weeks before a pl gig comes up i doubt he's going to go without food . And as i said he got the rest of his life to make a packet out of the sport with his talent . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJK86 180 Posted January 8, 2014 Depends if other people are making money out of the deal i guess and i expect that is the real reason he's sign for someone else ...at 19 and only having only to wait for a few weeks before a pl gig comes up i doubt he's going to go without food . And as i said he got the rest of his life to make a packet out of the sport with his talent . maybe he would rather be at a track he likes than ending up somewhere else that he does not enjoy which could harm his progress. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted January 8, 2014 Perhaps it's time for Matt to buy his contract and loan him out until next season. Suit all parties I should imagine. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trubruv 26 Posted January 8, 2014 Perhaps it's time for Matt to buy his contract and loan him out until next season. Suit all parties I should imagine. I have to be honest Steve thats what I feel will happen anyway! Nick will be a big loss for Swindon but to ask for a transfer to just move to Sheffield doesnt ring right! I would guess someone had already put a package together for him! Still its going to cost someone a lot of money if Rosco has any sense!!! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,364 Posted January 8, 2014 I have to be honest Steve thats what I feel will happen anyway! Nick will be a big loss for Swindon but to ask for a transfer to just move to Sheffield doesnt ring right! I would guess someone had already put a package together for him! Still its going to cost someone a lot of money if Rosco has any sense!!! Presumably he was told that if he wanted to leave he would have to put in a transfer request. So, all this is down to Brady Kurtz average being changed then. So why was it changed? Because that single event is having a ripple effect throughout the leagues. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,651 Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) To be honest, I don't see this as an 'asset' situation!! Morris' so-called agreement to be back at Swindon in 2014 could probably be nothing more or less than a 'See ya in the Spring' comment as he boarded his flight back to Oz, expecting as he (and others) did think that he would still be lodging with Rosco and riding for Somerset and Swindon!! Its not Morris' fault that he seems unlikely to be riding for either. Its not Swindon's fault either! It'll be very interesting to see how the BSPA General Council meeting deals with this later this month, as its their (and Somerset's) earlier actions that are the cause of all this! Of course, also bubbling under the surface is the apparent issue of Visa rejections, which if true, may well affect other line-ups (and have a possible bearing on the Morris issue) before teams finally take to the track in March/April!! Edited January 8, 2014 by Skidder1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
montie 1,273 Posted January 8, 2014 Nick Morris maybe needs to be in both leagues,but so should Josh Auty and Ash Birks...Nick should have just got his head down and waited and got on with it at Swindon If Sheff have made an approach for Nick well i would recall Stead --just to feck them up!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,827 Posted January 8, 2014 Presumably he was told that if he wanted to leave he would have to put in a transfer request. So, all this is down to Brady Kurtz average being changed then. So why was it changed? Because that single event is having a ripple effect throughout the leagues. The BSPA are the only ones to blame for this. They were the ones issuing an assessed average to then decide to change it (for B Kurtz). Morris is only doing what is best for him. It is the consequence of the BSPA actions and not those of Morris that is causing the problem here! Morris, like a few others need to ride in more than one league so his priorities are to getting team places sorted in BOTH leagues. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,364 Posted January 8, 2014 So why did they issue an average for Kurtz and then change it. What's the story there? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pirates Of Poole 761 Posted January 8, 2014 Not sure why they changed it. Somerset asked last year if Kurtz rode in the Danish league in 2013, would this effect his 3.00 average and apparently they said no. They announced him and then the BSPA changed their minds. Maybe they should have said yes it will effect his average in the first place to avoid all these issues. Cant see Matt wanting to buy Morris, it was all set last year but Nick decided to remain at Swindon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratton 1,491 Posted January 8, 2014 The BSPA are the only ones to blame for this. They were the ones issuing an assessed average to then decide to change it (for B Kurtz).Morris is only doing what is best for him. It is the consequence of the BSPA actions and not those of Morris that is causing the problem here!Morris, like a few others need to ride in more than one league so his priorities are to getting team places sorted in BOTH leagues.Exactly what i tried to explain to Shocker and Orion, what is wrong with this sport how hard is it to give an average and stick to it.If there was a problem weeks ago maybe something could of been done about it.I was looking forward to going this year mainly because i wanted to see Nick improve also he is a real racer an entertainer.So there is no one more disappointed than me the way it has turned out,but i fully understand Nick,s stance he has to think of his career he has only one shot at it blame the sport not Nick. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,827 Posted January 8, 2014 Exactly what i tried to explain to Shocker and Orion, what is wrong with this sport how hard is it to give an average and stick to it.If there was a problem weeks ago maybe something could of been done about it.I was looking forward to going this year mainly because i wanted to see Nick improve also he is a real racer an entertainer.So there is no one more disappointed than me the way it has turned out,but i fully understand Nick,s stance he has to think of his career he has only one shot at it blame the sport not Nick. Think Somerset must have been a bit green if they truly believed a rider that can get a ride in Denmark should stay on a 3 point assessed average. There are too many teams trying to get riders on bargain averages. I thought those days were meant to be behind us with a `fairer` assessed system supposedly in place (dependant of course who asks!) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
500cc 309 Posted January 8, 2014 Not sure why they changed it. Somerset asked last year if Kurtz rode in the Danish league in 2013, would this effect his 3.00 average and apparently they said no. They announced him and then the BSPA changed their minds. Maybe they should have said yes it will effect his average in the first place to avoid all these issues. Cant see Matt wanting to buy Morris, it was all set last year but Nick decided to remain at Swindon. Or did they ask the question that when Kurtz's turns 17 he is eligible for patriality? Somerset no doubt have written clarification that Kurtz could ride in the Danish League last year and still be eligible for a 3. I mean you wouldn't run a business based on a verbal answer (especially if you asked the wrong question). More so when there is recent history of disagreements between promoters and what they were told by the MC. Think Somerset must have been a bit green if they truly believed a rider that can get a ride in Denmark should stay on a 3 point assessed average. Especially when last year's regulations explicitly exclude such a rider from a 3 point assessed average. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,364 Posted January 8, 2014 So it wasn't changed then? Maybe they were given wrong information? Yes, they should definitely have been given a written confirmation - even just an email reply - before going with him. Maybe they did. Maybe they didn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) Results from 2nd round of Aus Championships. Final line up Batch 14 points J. Doyle 13 points J. Sedgmen 11 points C. Holder won B final and sneaked in to the final Final C. Holder, jammy b J. Doyle J. Sedgmen Troy fell and was excluded. Edited January 8, 2014 by A ORLOV Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
