Crazy robin 2,963 Posted April 25, 2014 so on one hand we have the resident master of getting facts wrong in Shovlar saying Holder hates the place, then another poster saying he rarely drops a point! so lets have a look! JUNE 2011 - 12 +1 from 5 AUGUST 2011 - 14 from 5 JULY 2012 - 11 + 1 from 4 (paid max) JUNE 2013 - 14 +1 from 6 So yet again Shovlar has no clue about facts before posting as basically Holder flies round there! The meeting itself (if it goes beyond heat 10) i can see Belle Vue by 6-8 Zagar and Holder fairly even Nicholls and Cook to outscore Janowski and Pawlicki. Coud come down to the reserves and how Milik goes away from home Sorry Gemini you beat me to it lol! He'll only come back with just because he scores LOADS OF POINTS there it doesn't mean he likes the place which is cock eyed at the best of times. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ouch 1,191 Posted April 25, 2014 That would be successful multiple league and cup winning cheating scumbags, thank you Well you need something to distinguish you from The Greatest successful multiple league and cup winning team in Britain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pugwash 3,208 Posted April 25, 2014 another kks alias getting boring now You're joking. This is his best yet. You just got to 'Roll With It'. Is Liam screwing his sister, does she have 'one in the oven', does his mum fancy Liam? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted April 25, 2014 I am completely correct in saying Holder hates the place. Go and ask him on Monday if you don't believe me. I have seen those words come out of his mouth twice. He dispises the track. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,050 Posted April 25, 2014 That would be successful multiple league and cup winning cheating scumbags, thank you as much as i despise Ford no club are 'scumbags' I am completely correct in saying Holder hates the place. Go and ask him on Monday if you don't believe me. I have seen those words come out of his mouth twice. He dispises the track. brilliant pure comedy gold. He may hate the place but he scores bucket loads of points there so using 'Holder hates the place' as some sort of excuse if you get beat simply doesnt wash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aces51 2,778 Posted April 25, 2014 That would be successful multiple league and cup winning cheating scumbags, thank you No. I think he meant Poole. They've won a few as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Leslie 3,213 Posted April 25, 2014 I am completely correct in saying Holder hates the place. Go and ask him on Monday if you don't believe me. I have seen those words come out of his mouth twice. He dispises the track.Tell him that if he goes there and scores 3 or 4 points we'll believe him. If not, he just appears to be either an idiot or a liar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
salty 2,202 Posted April 25, 2014 I have seen those words come out of his mouth twice. Did they come out in a speech bubble then? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikec 412 Posted April 25, 2014 Close match in prospect. True that Holder hasn't hidden his feelings about the Aces track in the past. Despite that he's won plenty of races at Kirky Lane in some style. Looking forward to watching Milik race live for the first time. Josh G is usually good at Belle Vue, Janowski & Pawlicki know how to win races there too. If Newman isn't fit then I'm sure Matt Ford will find a suitable track specialist guest reserve. So it promises be a stiff challenge for the Aces, Zagar & Nicholls have been outstanding at home, though Cook & Worrall have only shown flashes of their best form. Palm Toft & Nielsen's home performances have compensated well there in the opening two matches. Prediction - a 47-43 home win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted April 25, 2014 Tell him that if he goes there and scores 3 or 4 points we'll believe him. If not, he just appears to be either an idiot or a liar. Just because he scores well there doesn't change the fact he doesn't like the track. He is a professional rider so gets on with the job. Don't think he is the only rider who doesn't like the BV track either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ouch 1,191 Posted April 25, 2014 Looking at Holders results you' could almost think he was lying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted April 25, 2014 Looking at Holders results you' could almost think he was lying.Because he is such a good rider who enjoys riding for the Champs. Wonder if bet 365 are going to venture up there or Wolves on Monday? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,050 Posted April 25, 2014 Not saying he doesnt like the track but he always scores well there. so as i say if you get beat it will be nothing to do with Holder hating the place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted April 25, 2014 So, is Smart riding or not?? As others have inferred on another thread! Still not seen anything official.......? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Leslie 3,213 Posted April 25, 2014 Just because he scores well there doesn't change the fact he doesn't like the track.He might not like Shredded Wheat either, but in terms of scoring points in a Speedway match that is just as irrelevant. In terms of piling up points on a speedway track the facts show Belle Vue is one of his best. I think you're going to have to look somewhere else for an excuse for the defeat that you seem to be expecting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites