RS50 359 Posted June 23, 2014 According the 2014 Green sheet averages on Sheffield website, the current team total is 38.45, giving us approximately 4 points to make up. If Sheffield make a good change, and the under performing riders start to pull their weight, could be awesome team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted June 23, 2014 The rule actually states that the rider must have an established CMA from the previous season so even now that Lambert has an average he still cant double up this year. It may be a silly rule but it there and cant be changed mid season. Who says? Rules have been changed mid-season in the past - IF it suited someone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scaramanga 904 Posted June 23, 2014 only Who says? Rules have been changed mid-season in the past - IF it suited someone. only allowed when its 1 off the bspa comitee members that wants the change Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted June 24, 2014 only only allowed when its 1 off the bspa comitee members that wants the change Got it in one. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RS50 359 Posted June 25, 2014 Implied in local paper two changes to be made when new averages come out (which should be soon). Should ensure best efforts in the Peterborough match Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EIS002 159 Posted June 25, 2014 Implied in local paper two changes to be made when new averages come out (which should be soon). Should ensure best efforts in the Peterborough match If it's in the Sheffield Star do you have a link to the story please as I can find any reference. Just interested Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackadder 280 Posted June 25, 2014 I just posted it in Sheffield 2014. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EIS002 159 Posted June 25, 2014 Sorry Just found it http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/other-sports/speedway/some-hard-decisions-are-needed-at-owlerton-1-6690789 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arthur cross 492 Posted June 25, 2014 Surely not even the fresh averages for July are going to get Ty Proctor off his 9.22 calculated average from the Elite League because he's only ridden 2 Sheffield home meetings (instead of the required 4 for a PL-only average) before Monday's cut-off date (the 23rd of the previous month) for those July averages to be calculated and published. The Scunthorpe (May 15th) and Glasgow League meetings are the only Owlerton average-counters that he's ridden in because he was busy with Wolves for the Scunthorpe (June 12th) League meeting. Last Thursday was the 2nd leg of the League Cup semi-final against Edinburgh and only the group meetings of that competition are average-counters (on the basis they're the only meetings in that competition that every team's going to have) so Proctor didn't tick off his 3rd home meeting there ! What's more, he still won't tick off number-3 this Thursday in the much-delayed KO-Cup tie with Berwick as none of that competition's meetings are average-counters either ! So, by my reckoning, even if the weather behaves itself, his PL-only average won't emerge until after he's ridden at home to both Rye House (July 3rd) and Newcastle (July 17th) as there's no home meeting on July 10th. Newcastle are in a similar situation with a lack of away meetings meaning Danny King's 11+ PL-average converted from an EL-figure also can't become a PL-only average until mid-July even though he joined them in the same week Proctor eventually joined Sheffield ... in fact, Proctor and King could well both finally pick up their PL-only averages as soon as they've finished racing against each other in that July 17th encounter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew 125 Posted June 25, 2014 Ty did one home and two away Pl meetings for Plymouth last saeaon that will make up his four home and four away rolling average after Rye next week Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arthur cross 492 Posted June 25, 2014 Ty did one home and two away Pl meetings for Plymouth last saeaon that will make up his four home and four away rolling average after Rye next week But was he officially declared in Plymouth's 1-to-7 for that short spell with them last season or simply making a few guest appearances ? Even if he was in that Plymouth 1-to-7, I'm not sure such a short spell from one season can then be included in the next season's qualification at a different club for a PL-only average ... if he was just guesting at Plymouth then his scores in those meetings won't count at all towards any average calculations as scores while guesting are never included in any rider's average. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevePark 2,782 Posted June 25, 2014 Ty did one home and two away Pl meetings for Plymouth last saeaon that will make up his four home and four away rolling average after Rye next week But was he officially declared in Plymouth's 1-to-7 for that short spell with them last season or simply making a few guest appearances ? Even if he was in that Plymouth 1-to-7, I'm not sure such a short spell from one season can then be included in the next season's qualification at a different club for a PL-only average ... if he was just guesting at Plymouth then his scores in those meetings won't count at all towards any average calculations as scores while guesting are never included in any rider's average. Ty Proctor doesn't appear in any of Plymouth's 1-7 on the BSPA Greensheets for 2013 on the BSPA website, suggesting his appearances were as a guest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew 125 Posted June 25, 2014 He was in Plymouths 1 to 7 from the start of 2013 until he had his season ending injury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevePark 2,782 Posted June 25, 2014 He was in Plymouths 1 to 7 from the start of 2013 until he had his season ending injury. You're quite right . Away meetings at Redcar and Edinburgh and at home to Edinburgh are the three matches that would have counted towards a 'proper' average. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4thbender 382 Posted June 25, 2014 Lanhams knocking on now, sad to see him struggling as he was brilliant for newport. His three seasons with us he was one of the most exciting Wasps , certainly wasnt the gating tart he was made out to be made a few passes most meetings inside and out, his races with joe screen were superb. Was a class performer in the pl days for arena too, was one of the best riders in the league when i first started attending. Very sad to see him scoring 1's and 2's. The thing I've noticed about LL is that when he gets overtaken by an opponent he immediately looks over his shoulder to see where the next one is. In my book this betrays the psychological mindset that he's expecting to get passed and is focusing more on retaining second place than putting up a fight for the lead. Contrast this with Stead who, on the rare occasion he finds himself being passed, fixes his attention on the man in front looking for an opening to win back the lead. LL's mindset is all wrong and that's why, when the inevitable changes are made, the axe must fall on him (along with Proctor, who's all at sea). Interesting to note that with the manager threatening team changes in the local press, Poole's gone out at Peterborough tonight and scored ten. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
