Grachan 7,364 Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) This countries immigration system/policy is so f***** up. Just the other day a little 7 yr old British boy was deported to a country he has never know. His mother came over from Nigeria escaping the somebody 8yrs ago had her baby was granted asylum. She registered her baby boy here in Britian thus making him a British citizen accept him into the school system for 5 yrs spending money on his education whilst his mum worked and paid into the system they were described as pillars of the community. So what is the UKBA decision deport her back to Nigeria with here British son, Now surely this is an illegal act by the British government. So as i siad earlier this country is seriously F***** up. I've been reading about this case now. You're facts are a bit incorrect. First of all, being born in the UK does not automatically make you a British citizen. This is from the Government website: "British citizenship If you were born in the UK on or after 1 January 1983 You don’t automatically get British citizenship if you were born in the UK. If you were born on or after 1 January 1983, you’ll be a British citizen if your mother or father was either: a British citizen when you were born ‘settled’ in the UK when you were born In most cases you’ll be a British citizen if your mother or father was born in the UK or naturalised there at the time of your birth. If you were born before July 2006, your father’s British nationality will normally only pass to you if he was married to your mother at the time of your birth." The boy's mother was told in 2007 she was inelibible to be in the UK. She had the boy after that. He is not a British citizen. She has also been in prison for obtaining false documentation and working illegally. She's been using the appeals system ever since, which prevented her being deported before. Edited January 26, 2015 by grachan 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted January 26, 2015 Well at least they, and other Sportsmen and Women, have a job to do - unlike some of the other ne'er do wells that we are accepting at the moment. You are right when you say that it is difficult for the Authorities but they should be clamping down really hard instead of dancing around the issue trying not to offend anyone. If the Authorities really were getting a grip, I would find the problem with Australian and American Speedway Riders easier to understand. The boy's mother was told in 2007 she was inelibible to be in the UK. She had the boy after that. He is not a British citizen. She has also been in prison for obtaining false documentation and working illegally. She's been using the appeals system ever since, which prevented her being deported before. 2007 She was told - EIGHT YEARS ago. It beggars belief. I wonder how many more Cases there are like this? This is exactly the sort of thing I meant, in the above Post, when I said the Authorities are pussyfooting around. This woman should be expelled from our Country along with a lot of others of her ilk. I have no problems with Legal Immigrants provided they are of some use to our Society - but - people like this Lady should be put on a boat or a plane and be sent back to wherever. THE SOONER THE BETTER!!! Remember while these people are here - we are paying for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoggy 122 Posted January 26, 2015 the spotlight swung onto speedway because of the UKBA being disbanded and the UKVI being created. The BSPA, as the professional body for speedway , were asked to supply certain details of the body to the UKVI to keep their recognition by the government.. The BSPA office failed to reply to the requirement by the REQUIRED date set by the government , in other words they treated the government the same way they interact with everyone else in speedway, that was the start of greater diligence by the men iin sukits This is absolutely and categorically untrue Godfrey please don't keep repeating it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YAMYAMBANDIT 560 Posted January 26, 2015 What a nightmare, I am going to take up 'shove h'apenny', thats if I can find any. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,364 Posted January 26, 2015 2007 She was told - EIGHT YEARS ago. It beggars belief. I wonder how many more Cases there are like this? This is exactly the sort of thing I meant, in the above Post, when I said the Authorities are pussyfooting around. This woman should be expelled from our Country along with a lot of others of her ilk. I have no problems with Legal Immigrants provided they are of some use to our Society - but - people like this Lady should be put on a boat or a plane and be sent back to wherever. THE SOONER THE BETTER!!! Remember while these people are here - we are paying for them. She has been. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted January 26, 2015 She has been. I assume you mean sent back. Good!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BluTiger 21,708 Posted January 26, 2015 Visa problems can easily be avoided by adhering to the regulations that cover any application to the country concerned. If you don't qualify or break the terms of that visa and get refused, that's just tough cheese i'm afraid... 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted January 26, 2015 Well at least they, and other Sportsmen and Women, have a job to do - unlike some of the other ne'er do wells that we are accepting at the moment. You are right when you say that it is difficult for the Authorities but they should be clamping down really hard instead of dancing around the issue trying not to offend anyone. If the Authorities really were getting a grip, I would find the problem with Australian and American Speedway Riders easier to understand. maybe they are getting to grip's,,, and doing it in alphabetical order,,, 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted January 26, 2015 maybe they are getting to grip's,,, and doing it in alphabetical order,,, :blink: I never thought of that RD. :blink: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) maybe they are getting to grip's,,, and doing it in alphabetical order,,, :blink: I never thought of that RD. :blink: The riders from The Yemen, Zambia and Zimbabwe have no chance this season. Edited January 26, 2015 by A ORLOV 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevePark 2,796 Posted January 26, 2015 it will be interesting to see if Arsenal manage to gain a permit for the uncapped Brazillian they are currently persuing. They have gained a Work Permit for the uncapped Paulista http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30970748 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted January 26, 2015 They have gained a Work Permit for the uncapped Paulista http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30970748 Mmmmmmmmmmmmm Dare I say - money talks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,364 Posted January 26, 2015 Mmmmmmmmmmmmm Dare I say - money talks. He's playing in the top league. He'll only be playing for one team. He meets the criteria. Plus football probably doesn't have an issue with visa violations. It's nothing to do with this case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 10,219 Posted January 26, 2015 He's playing in the top league. He'll only be playing for one team. He meets the criteria. Plus football probably doesn't have an issue with visa violations. It's nothing to do with this case. Hmmm. Thought he was supposed to have played in 75% of the games in the last two years to get a work permit. Honestly, do people read whats going no before they launch into rants? What makes you think they're "paying into the system"? And so what if they are, Mason Campton has been here 2 years "paying into the system" but while he's "paying in" some British riders have been on the dole. Get rid of Campton and co and the Brits have jobs. All the UKV&I are asking here is that speedway clubs follow the rules that you expect all others to follow. Imagine this was "Mr Wongs Chinese chip shop", would you be having the same rant then? Or is it only because it's a sport you follow? Speedway clubs have been breaking the law FFS! And what about the speedway riders who go home without paying tax? And leaving debts over here? Why do you think some foreigners have a year or two over here and then disappear fro the UK? They owe people (including the tax man) money! Cough cough. What about your favourite Mr F Smart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mac101 1,202 Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) He's playing in the top league. He'll only be playing for one team. He meets the criteria. Plus football probably doesn't have an issue with visa violations. It's nothing to do with this case. Does that mean the team that signs and owns the riders contract can or should only ride for them and no other team makes the riders contract not worth thye paper it's written on Edited January 26, 2015 by mac101 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
