Rob B 1,257 Posted May 28, 2015 Lakeside Hammers Andreas Jonsson ©, Kim Nilsson, Richard Lawson, Mikkel Bech, Edward Kennett, Adam Ellis (EDR) Steve Boxall (EDR) Belle Vue Aces Matej Zagar, Aaron Summers (G), Peter Karlsson (G), Stuart Robson (G) Scott Nicholls © Steve Worrall (EDR) Ben Morley (G) (EDR) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cityrebel 2,960 Posted May 28, 2015 The first home meeting for lakeside in three weeks and what do we have, yet another patched up EL team. Together with a dodgy weather forecast, it's gonna be hard to pull the punters in for this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil The Ace 2,860 Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) Some good guest's there but why oh why does EL persist with weekend racing. It's just not viable in the EL. EL needs to drop weekend matches all together. Edited May 28, 2015 by Phil The Ace 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E I Addio 15,845 Posted May 28, 2015 Some good guest's there but why oh why does EL persist with weekend racing. It's just not viable in the EL. EL needs to drop weekend matches all together. Why should the EL drop weekend racing instead of PL ? Why should the top league play second fiddle to the lower league ? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jim3751 88 Posted May 28, 2015 Yet another meeting bolstered by guests and track specialists at that. Well, Ben should be! It'll be nice to see PK and Stuart again but is it Belle Vue? Who cares? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil The Ace 2,860 Posted May 28, 2015 Why should the EL drop weekend racing instead of PL ? Why should the top league play second fiddle to the lower league ? It's quite obvious don't you think. The EL have more international riders. Eg, GPs, SEC, qualifiers etc 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mudflaps 664 Posted May 28, 2015 Why should the EL drop weekend racing instead of PL ? Why should the top league play second fiddle to the lower league ? one of the thickest posts I have ever read on this forum.... Crikey, you're pretty special! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aces51 2,778 Posted May 28, 2015 I agree that weekend racing is difficult with all of the various international commitments but surely it is not beyond the wit of someone even reasonably intelligent to arrange a fixture list that avoids more PL fixture clashes and events like the world u21's. We know it is unavoidable for injuries but the BSPA have got to realise that the excessive use of guests for avoidable reasons is one of the major reasons the sport is in difficulties. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bellevueace 913 Posted May 28, 2015 Thought Belle Vue were riding? Too many matches nowadays with teams full of guests, a complete joke, at least its saved my petrol money and other expenses, I certainly wont be making the effort to support less than half a team. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E I Addio 15,845 Posted May 28, 2015 Why should the EL drop weekend racing instead of PL ? Why should the top league play second fiddle to the lower league ? Except that there are no riders on international duty. The reason Belle Vue have half a team of guests is that they have riders piddling around in the PL . It the problem is the double uppers not the international riders. one of the thickest posts I have ever read on this forum.... Crikey, you're pretty special! Well come on then explain to me why PL fixtures should take precedence of EL fixtures. ? Matej Zagar and Andreas Jonsson are down to ride. The PL double uppers are missing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob B 1,257 Posted May 28, 2015 Except that there are no riders on international duty. The reason Belle Vue have half a team of guests is that they have riders piddling around in the PL . It the problem is the double uppers not the international riders. Yes there are, Fricke & Nielsen are on their way to World U21 qualifiers, not PL meetings. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mudflaps 664 Posted May 28, 2015 Well come on then explain to me why PL fixtures should take precedence of EL fixtures. ? Matej Zagar and Andreas Jonsson are down to ride. The PL double uppers are missing. :rofl: :rofl: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob B 1,257 Posted May 28, 2015 Thankfully Steve Worrall is Belle Vue asset else he would have been missing too as Newcastle at Somerset. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E I Addio 15,845 Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) Yes there are, Fricke & Nielsen are on their way to World U21 qualifiers, not PL meetings.And the other two have PL fixtures. Kim Nilsson missed the Wolves meeting on Monday because of a GP qualifier so not having EL meetings on Friday/Sauturday would not avoid that. The biggest problem with riders missing , apart from injuries is fixture clashes with D/u riders. Cook and Grajconak both ride for PL clubs that race on a Friday so they are always going to miss a Lakeside fixture. That is a DU problem. I don't think Cook has ever been to Lakeside because he is always at his PL club, nothing to to with international duty. The fact that Fricke and Neilsson are not available is bad fixture planning. It simply needs proper fixture planning not stopping EL clubs racing on a Friday. Edited May 28, 2015 by E I Addio Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,784 Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) Quite right, three quarters of speedway's troubles are a result of dreadful fixture planning. I agree about Cook and Josh G, these are two riders who we are told are ambitious and want to improve so they really shouldn't miss EL matches to ride in the PL regardless of who's asset they may be. No admission of being wrong about Fricke & Nielsen though, you'd make a great politician Edited May 28, 2015 by Gordon Bennett 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
