iris123 20,997 Posted July 6, 2015 POSSIBLE explanation for gate 1 advantage at the Millennium ... as at Western Springs in 2013 the track was slightly higher on the outside than inside and moisture naturally gravitated to the inside providing more grip, which was critical on a track with short a such a short run from tapes to first corner.. Plus the fact that during races riders continually go over the outside gates rather than those on the inside, thus compacting them more. Had three telephone calls this morning (none of which were primarily anything to with Cardiff) from Barry Briggs, Hans Nielsen and Kelvin Tatum and put that point to each of them and all more or less concurred. Isn't it worrying then that this happened in 2013,but nothing seemed to have been learnt(despite the continual statement that "lessons have been learnt")for such a basic thing even after a test meeting..........it is robbing the paying public to make the same mistakes over and over Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paulco 7,080 Posted July 6, 2015 Ole has 10 years to perfect the starts, only took 15 to make the track ruttless!True , but at least when the track had ruts you got a bit of excitement . There wasn't much to get you out your seat on Saturday night . Apart from letting annoying Poles in and out of course Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted July 6, 2015 True , but at least when the track had ruts you got a bit of excitement . There wasn't much to get you out your seat on Saturday night . Apart from letting annoying Poles in and out of course Not if you're just watching the leader there wasn't. Meanwhile there was overtaking in 17 of the 23 heats. A number of those had multiple passes, plus races with passing, repassing and passing again. So we can put that myth to bed.. its not passing that excites speedway fans! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paulco 7,080 Posted July 6, 2015 Not if you're just watching the leader there wasn't. Meanwhile there was overtaking in 17 of the 23 heats. A number of those had multiple passes, plus races with passing, repassing and passing again. So we can put that myth to bed.. its not passing that excites speedway fans! Passing for the lead maybe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fullbore 129 Posted July 6, 2015 The relentless booing of poor Nikki obviously had something to do with what happened with Saint Greg the other week , Nah, he's been bood at Cardiff for years, it's to do with his tactic of punting the opposition into the safety fence then rifing round the track wagging his finger pretending to be all innocent. Niamh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paulco 7,080 Posted July 6, 2015 Nah, he's been bood at Cardiff for years, it's to do with his tactic of punting the opposition into the safety fence then rifing round the track wagging his finger pretending to be all innocent. Niamh He was on Saturday Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fullbore 129 Posted July 6, 2015 He was on Saturday We were at the other end so couldn't really tell. Not watched the recoding yet, but it certainly didn't seem to be one of his worst. Niamh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paulco 7,080 Posted July 6, 2015 Another wee point about Saturday . I'm not Welsh , but I love their national anthem , but it's far better sung . When it's getting belted out it makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up , Saturday's musical version didn't have the same impact . 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark 1,497 Posted July 6, 2015 Kildermand could have stayed on his bike when Pedersen nudged him but he took the easy option to fall. He did the best for himself but had it not been Pedersen maybe the exclusion would have been reversed Garritty was reckless. Poor move and showed his inexperience. . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OveFundinFan 4,143 Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) Just got back from Cardiff this afternoon. Enjoyed the weather on Saturday, enjoyed our b&b, and ENJOYED the meeting. A worthy winner in NKI, but would have been good to see Tai win it, or at least be on the podium. Tai wont be too bothered, he has said before winning a GP is great, but its picking up the trophy at the end of the year that matters, and he increased his lead on Saturday night. Well done Tai. Pity the gates were so biased to gate 1 and 2, shame that. As for Craig Cook, he gets some stick on here, but remember he got 7 points including a win on Saturday. Thats the same points as Jason Doyle (who didnt win a race), 3 more then last years no2 - KK, two more then GP regular Chris Harris (who didnt win one), 4 more then a under 21 world champ - Janowski, 3 more then Troy Batch, and the same 7 point total as THJ (who failed to win one). Thats not bad in my eyes. And, of the 5 Brits (yes 5!) that rode on Saturday night he beat all but the one that is well ahead of any other Brit (Tai). AND he beat Greg, Holder and Janowski in his first race. I dont think that is a bad result, and lets face it - he doesnt have the experience at that level (too slow into the bends) nor probably spent the money on his engine as others for Saturday night. It was good to see Garrity and Lambert get a ride, but was a bit disgusted that a Brit took another Brit out of the race - the refs decision was right. Must be difficult for them to be riding in a GP, but then be thrown into heat 17 when everyone else has had 4 rides. Until the accident, they did well. looking forward to watching it all again on the recording. Edited July 6, 2015 by OveFundinFan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
van wolfswinkel 635 Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) Went by rail this year so what was the Park and Ride situation? Wouldn't swap the last train back to Swindon, one of the best laughs I've had in ages..full of some pished up speedway fans and partygoers having a good time, including a huge Polish fan with ultra- long beard collapsing like a pack of cards through drinking too much Anyone pay 38 quid for tickets from office and get 29 quid section tickets as they said they had run out? If we just went for the racing don't think we would bother, like having the craic with different fans, and watching The Magoos,great live combo from Worcester. They have to get the Gate bias sorted out, only Krackerjack came last from there, and would have put money on Woffy-Holder to win final. Brilliant ride from Iversen(and Killer). No mention of GP at all in the Mail, plenty of F1 coverage, although did have 140000 at Silverstone as opposed to 40000 in the motor-cycle GP at Cardiff. Edited July 6, 2015 by haydon hat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted July 6, 2015 Went by rail this year so what was the Park and Ride situation? Wouldn't swap the last train back to Swindon, one of the best laughs I've had in ages..full of some pished up speedway fans and partygoers having a good time, including a huge Polish fan with ultra- long beard collapsing like a pack of cards through drinking too much Anyone pay 38 quid for tickets from office and get 29 quid section tickets as they said they had run out? If we just went for the racing don't think we would bother, like having the craic with different fans, and watching The Magoos,great live combo from Worcester. They have to get the Gate bias sorted out, only Krackerjack came last from there, and would have put money on Woffy-Holder to win final. Brilliant ride from Iversen(and Killer). Seems to be the way to go providing they keep the early start time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tellboy 3,662 Posted July 6, 2015 Well another good weekend spent down in Wales. Again disappointed with the fanzone being where it is now,well to cramped,just nip through there now and get a programme.Sad to see no entertainment neither in the stadium.But didn't let that put me off just had a couple more beers instead Although gate 1 had a huge advantage I still enjoyed the racing.Although when I got home and watched the re-run the racing was actually a lot closer than it seemed in the stadium. At the end NKI was a deserved winner and proved if you were set up right you didn't need to be off gate 1.Would liked to have seen Tai win,but when it was obvious he wasn't going to get anywhere I had to cheer on the Lynn man . Roll on July next year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted July 6, 2015 Another wee point about Saturday . I'm not Welsh , but I love their national anthem , but it's far better sung . When it's getting belted out it makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up , Saturday's musical version didn't have the same impact . FULLY agree with that ... and made the point to BSI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
New Science 1,059 Posted July 6, 2015 POSSIBLE explanation for gate 1 advantage at the Millennium ... as at Western Springs in 2013 the track was slightly higher on the outside than inside and moisture naturally gravitated to the inside providing more grip, which was critical on a track with short a such a short run from tapes to first corner.. Plus the fact that during races riders continually go over the outside gates rather than those on the inside, thus compacting them more. Had three telephone calls this morning (none of which were primarily anything to with Cardiff) from Barry Briggs, Hans Nielsen and Kelvin Tatum and put that point to each of them and all more or less concurred. Was gate 1 so dominant in the test event ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
