Alex2000 266 Posted September 27, 2015 Sorry but I will not tolerate language , obviously it was noted by other people but if you can't voice an opinion on here without abuse I won't bother . Junior Oh handbags handbags Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadders 4,136 Posted September 27, 2015 Funny how different supporters see things I was told Morley pulled a big locker and Ellis did well to miss him . Junior Again, you're making comments without actually seeing the meeting. Morley was racing on the outside line, taking the line Ellis had been riding all meeting. Ben then switched inside on the last bend to block Ellis's run. Perfectly legal move and shows a good speedway brain. I've always thought of Ben as a bit of a white liner, but he's come on leaps and bounds on yesterday's showing. His bike looked pretty quick which always helps. Deserving winner, no doubt 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waco 1,026 Posted September 27, 2015 Totally agree with Shads on this,some people are confusing a locker,or unwanted lock up,with a controlled cut back regularly used by Ben as a tacticle move.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flipper11 134 Posted September 27, 2015 There should be no doubt Morley was the best rider and deserved the win. As said, in the final heat there didn't seem to be more than 2 bike lengths between them with Morley taking Ellis preferred outside line virtually all race then switching to hug the inside line on the last bend to block Ellis inside move, brilliant race from both of them. Roll on the nlrc AT Rye House next year I say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TurnTwo 317 Posted September 27, 2015 Waco understands what I'm referring too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chopper 88 Posted September 28, 2015 We'll done to young Ben, I for one hope that he kicks on next year and can get a PL spot at a track he likes , and I can't see why that wouldn't be Rye. Chopper 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben91 1,743 Posted September 28, 2015 On the topic of meeting format, the best rider on the night should be winner. If Morley had then had to face a semi and a final he may have not won the meeting and that would have been incredibly unfair. If riders are tied there is the run off system which works fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waco 1,026 Posted September 28, 2015 (edited) I think the majority of posters on here agree that the fairest format is the 20 heat top scorer wins...with run offs for tied places of course...The semi,s and final formats were brought in because the powers that be think it creates more excitement at the end of a meeting..However it is not as fair,,,it's a bit like the end of season play off,s for the league champions,,same reasoning applies?? I know which I prefer in both circumstances and it ain't the semi,s and finals or play off,s Edited September 28, 2015 by waco 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iand 133 Posted September 28, 2015 I noticed the other night. Kent individual meeting 12 man line up and then 2 semis. What incentive is there to race hard in the heats, you only had to get 8th to qualify. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan_Jones 1,005 Posted September 28, 2015 I noticed the other night. Kent individual meeting 12 man line up and then 2 semis. What incentive is there to race hard in the heats, you only had to get 8th to qualify. The incentive is that it's a cheap format for the promoter to run a 'fixture filler' meeting. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teaboy279 1,038 Posted September 28, 2015 Tbf it's the only way to run a 15 Heat format for 12 riders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waco 1,026 Posted September 28, 2015 (edited) The 12 rider format as has been said above is the cheap way to run an individual and invariable consists of a poor cheap line up,,result is usually a rubbish meeting..with an equally poor attendance which it deserves ...In my opinion Edited September 28, 2015 by waco 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites