ruckerroo 792 Posted November 1, 2015 I couldn't have dugard riding in the main 1-5, I think he would score next to nothing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TurnTwo 317 Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) Agree with ruckeroo Working from their last meeting at Coventry. 1. Hopwood 8.29 2. Andrews 5.2 3. Spiller 6.63 4. Wood 5.9 5. Owen 7.25 6. Brennan 3 7. Powell 3 Edited November 2, 2015 by jubileeclip Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex2000 266 Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) We still don't know if Brennan can ride so it's him/ Powell I would think. And let's not forget Mason now on a 6 something Edited November 1, 2015 by Alex2000 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*JJ 512 Posted November 2, 2015 Charlie Powell rode a couple of meetings for Birmingham this year and did well, but left, and the story was that Eastie were keeping him to less than three matches to keep his average at 3 for next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triple.H. 1,986 Posted November 2, 2015 If BWD goes into the PL on an assessed 5 next year then other NL teams should be outraged that he was allowed in the NL this year. If he's not British he's not eligible. If he is racing as a Brit then he should be eligible for a PL spot on a 3 point average next year. Not sour grapes at all btw, think he's a good rider but rules are rules and all that. But Ben this is Speedway and British Speedway at that, the rules change on a whim and sometimes during a meeting it's bloody farcical.Though I agree if BWD or any rider qualifies to ride in NL then that's it the decision is made you can't a few months later say he's ineligible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catinthehat 115 Posted November 2, 2015 The SCB and BSPA seem to have a problem, They have made a rule but it does not cover them either way, BWD has ridden in the Nl and should go into the PL on a 3, he is box office at 3 at 3 pointer and will bring the crowd in to see him ride, He had an ACU licence for 2 years, This is Why British speedway is going down hill because someone wont do anything for the good of the sport. BWD may never come back to race for anyone in the UK, again British speedway will shoot its self in the foot, British Speedway, Load, Fire, Aim. when it should be Load aim fire. LOL (just in case someone from the BSPA does not get that Joke). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex2000 266 Posted November 2, 2015 Maybe he won't come back next year but if we go PL 2017 come back then! By then wood and whoever else we find will be ready to step up so BWD and Wood could make a decent lower order PL team in 2017? Nothing to say we will ever move up but I think a certain promoter might get bored staying in one place after a while? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sings4Speedway 3,247 Posted November 2, 2015 Does seem unlikely he will get a place in the PL if made to go in on a 5 point average when every team will be signing riders around his ability on a 3. Sadly there are always riders who fall through the cracks when rules are changed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triple.H. 1,986 Posted November 2, 2015 Does seem unlikely he will get a place in the PL if made to go in on a 5 point average when every team will be signing riders around his ability on a 3. Sadly there are always riders who fall through the cracks when rules are changed. AFAIK the rules haven't been changed but the powers that be would seem to be manipulating them as and when they wish.I've never seen BWD ride except on YouTube and I have no affiliation with Eastbourne whatsoever But if he is British enough to ride at NL level then he's British enough to go into the PL on a 3pt average. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex2000 266 Posted November 2, 2015 AFAIK the rules haven't been changed but the powers that be would seem to be manipulating them as and when they wish. I've never seen BWD ride except on YouTube and I have no affiliation with Eastbourne whatsoever But if he is British enough to ride at NL level then he's British enough to go into the PL on a 3pt average. https://youtu.be/jEwpEpp3fQs His race with shanes earlier this season. Best meeting this season I have been to Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triple.H. 1,986 Posted November 3, 2015 Cracking race Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex2000 266 Posted November 4, 2015 Eastbourne Bradley Wilson-Dean9.83 Ben Hopwood 8.00 Marc Owen7.25 Daniel Spiller6.63 George Wood5.90 Richard Andrews5.18 Kelsey Dugard4.49 Niall Strudwick3.00 47.28 Our final averages. Highest in the league by the looks overall. Quite some work to do now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steven101 103 Posted November 5, 2015 Hopwood 8 Andrews 5.18 Wood 5.90 Chessell 5.88 Spiller 6.63 Spiller 3 Brennan or powell 3 depending on rules for tom 37.59 Sorted ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jayne 312 Posted November 5, 2015 AFAIK the rules haven't been changed but the powers that be would seem to be manipulating them as and when they wish. I've never seen BWD ride except on YouTube and I have no affiliation with Eastbourne whatsoever But if he is British enough to ride at NL level then he's British enough to go into the PL on a 3pt average. Not necessarily it depends on if he was racing in the NL under partiality grounds or as a British Passport holder. If it is the former then yes he would be a 5.00 in the PL whilst the latter would be a 3.00 in the PL. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Halifaxtiger 5,318 Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) Not necessarily it depends on if he was racing in the NL under partiality grounds or as a British Passport holder. If it is the former then yes he would be a 5.00 in the PL whilst the latter would be a 3.00 in the PL. The 3.00 and 5.00 pt rule applies in the NL, not the PL. This is the rule as stated in SCB Regulations regarding riders new to the PL and their averages: 18.6 RIDERS MATCH AVERAGES (see SR 16.2 for Definitions) and GRADINGS 18.6.1 Riders new to Premier League racing are categorised as follows: Cat 1: Riders with an “end of the previous season’s published average” in the Polish Ekstraliga or the Swedish Elitserien of above 6.00 points and a Rider subject to a Certificate of Sponsorship Cat 2: Riders with an “end of the previous season’s published average” in the Polish Ekstraliga or Swedish Elitserien of 6.00 and below plus ALL other Riders riding currently in any Professional Speedway League, Cat 3a: Riders not riding in a Professional Speedway League Cat 3b: Commonwealth or USA (to a maximum of 4 each season) Riders new to British Speedway Cat 4: Riders who have ridden in the National Development League as an Amateur 18.6.2 The Assessed MA's for new Riders to the PL racing is: Cat 1 8.00 Cat 2 7.00 Cat 3a 5.00 Cat 3b 7.00 Cat 4 3.00 Can you point me to a regulation that states that there is a difference between a rider with a British passport and a rider who has patriality ? If not, Wilson-Dean's PL average is a 3.00. Or is it the case that the BSPA are attempting to make things up and ignore their own rule book again. Shades of Len Silver's insistence that Daniel Spiller came in to the NL on a 5.00, despite the fact that he was a British passport holder and had not ridden in the NL. Edited November 5, 2015 by Halifaxtiger 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
