THE DEAN MACHINE 4,773 Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) Sponge is also an amateur and crude way of getting additive (nitro or similar) into the fuel system when the fuel is supplied by a regulated source Edited July 13, 2016 by THE DEAN MACHINE 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dazzafl 212 Posted July 13, 2016 Sponge is also an amateur and crude way of getting additive (nitro or similar) into the fuel system when the fuel is supplied by a regulated source thats a damn good point.. at GP's the fuel is taken out and replaced every time before they go into a race.. and the fuel is topped up by officials on the track if there is a stoppage.. hmm the plot thickens... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedibee 3,091 Posted July 13, 2016 So we have the How, now we need to discover When then we can move on to Who Seriously Danny I agree it makes no sense targeting NKI unless it was a dummy run. Maybe security in the pits of future GPs will be tighter. It was me !! I had a bet on NKI getting less than 5 . got 50-1 with ladbrokes . worked out well and it only cost me 40p for the washing up sponges 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedibee 3,091 Posted July 13, 2016 thats a damn good point.. at GP's the fuel is taken out and replaced every time before they go into a race.. and the fuel is topped up by officials on the track if there is a stoppage.. hmm the plot thickens... thats a damn good point.. at GP's the fuel is taken out and replaced every time before they go into a race.. and the fuel is topped up by officials on the track if there is a stoppage.. hmm the plot thickens... used to be . I dont think they do that anymore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dazzafl 212 Posted July 13, 2016 used to be . I dont think they do that anymore i think they do mate.. but ready to be corrected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heathen chemistry 660 Posted July 13, 2016 a sponge is a cheap filter , just there to stop bits getting into the system the only way youll find out if it hampers fuel flow is testing in the workshop Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobMcCaffery 2,752 Posted July 13, 2016 It's all reminiscent of the 1978 British Final scandal when Peter Collins found, after being eliminated from the World Championship that someone had put sugar in his fuel tank. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trees 2,814 Posted July 13, 2016 Sponge is also an amateur and crude way of getting additive (nitro or similar) into the fuel system when the fuel is supplied by a regulated source Or any other "bad" additive also then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Doctor... 1,478 Posted July 13, 2016 Have genuinley missed all of this as i'm currently back in Belfast for our yearly celebrations - any links kicking around ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THE DEAN MACHINE 4,773 Posted July 13, 2016 Or any other "bad" additive also then? yes water would be OK to slow a bike down without engine damage , what I want to know is who found these sponges at Coventry , his team or the machine examiner ? , if it was the latter then the "I don't know how they got in there" sounds like the plea of a guilty man but if it was his team then it's got to be sabatage in some way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bald Bloke 3,294 Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) Sponge is also an amateur and crude way of getting additive (nitro or similar) into the fuel system when the fuel is supplied by a regulated source Years ago with up right motors you could soak a sponge with an additive,place it on top of your throttle slide.Crawl around to the start line.And when you open the throttle wide it would squeeze the sponge realising the additive.Giving u a better riide to the first corner.If the fuel was tested after the race it would be clean. In NKI case it can only hinder fuel flow. Edited July 13, 2016 by Bald Bloke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arson fire 4,785 Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) Think to get close enough in an enclosed pit area is a bit far fetched, performance enhancing would be more logical imo, i hope its investigated fully. Was it to 2 bikes?? Edited July 13, 2016 by Arson fire Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bald Bloke 3,294 Posted July 13, 2016 If it was performance inhancing it didn't work had would'nt of been brought up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacques 3,114 Posted July 13, 2016 A lot of people are assuming that the sponges were "planted" in the pits at Cardiff. If I'm right, Neils said that the sponges were found before the meeting at Coventry on Monday. How often do mechanics check the fuel tanks? Unless you have a timeline of who had access to his equipment, before, during and after the GP and someone can say his fuel tank was sponge free at the critical time, you'll struggle to identify a culprit, if indeed there is one... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THE DEAN MACHINE 4,773 Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) Years ago with up right motors you could soak a sponge with an additive,place it on top of your throttle slide.Crawl around to the start line.And when you open the throttle wide it would squeeze the sponge realising the additive.Giving u a better riide to the first corner.If the fuel was tested after the race it would be clean. In NKI case it can only hinder fuel flow. it would only hinder fuel flow on direct injection fuel system , speedway uses carbs so the tank fills the float chamber , a float chamber is enough to run a bike for 1/2 lap with fuel supply completely cut off , so even a reduced flow would still fill the float chamber faster than the engine can use it , so imo the sponge was used for fuel additive or water depending on who put it in and also iversen would of noticed the bike hesitating if it was fuel starvation , water in fuel would just make it feel slow Edited July 13, 2016 by THE DEAN MACHINE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
