Woz01 3,589 Posted January 26, 2017 I suspect that Coventry Bees fans need to look at Mick Horton as the main cause of the "where are we now" situation. His track record of not getting it right goes back a long way at other tracks. It seems obvious that the Bees are not going to run at Brandon in 2017 - unless they start the season in May or June. Sharing at Leicester is going to be a financial flop unless it's just for a couple of months but even that is likely to prove costly. And again! The stadium owners are stopping us from using the stadium as things stand because they have issue with Sandhu. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdmc82 2,878 Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) The chairman not official enough then? Although he did only say he was 'hopeful' of some news at midday.Where did the chairman official say that?Only person I saw say anything about a possible midday announcement was the writer for the Coventry Observer and even he stated it was only a possibility Edited January 26, 2017 by mdmc82 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woz01 3,589 Posted January 26, 2017 Where did the chairman official say that? Only person I saw say anything about a possible midday announcement was the writer for the Coventry Observer and even he stated it was only a possibility The article was a bit of a guess wasn't it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wealdstone 3,454 Posted January 26, 2017 the reason sandhu went in and took his stuff , was because of horton , horton thinks he's hitler , sandhu is the one whio has spent money on brandon , not horton so carnt blame him for taking his stuff , i also blame horton for the breakdown in there relationship as many folk tend to fall out with horton over stupid things , mainly financial.... he still owes kenni larsen money Horton falls out with just about everybody at some time!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brandonmole 85 Posted January 26, 2017 And again! The stadium owners are stopping us from using the stadium as things stand because they have issue with Sandhu. There is no doubt whatsoever that Horton is to blame here. Sandhu may regret his actions (and they may have been hasty), but Horton is firmly the reason why the Bees are in their current predicament. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted January 26, 2017 Well someone needs to tell the Coventry press guy that he's due to release a statement as he's not aware of any statement being released! The news paper reporting more "fake news" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Smith 5,661 Posted January 26, 2017 the reason sandhu went in and took his stuff , was because of horton , horton thinks he's hitler , sandhu is the one whio has spent money on brandon , not horton so carnt blame him for taking his stuff , i also blame horton for the breakdown in there relationship as many folk tend to fall out with horton over stupid things , mainly financial.... he still owes kenni larsen money This post is completely wrong in all aspects. Sandhu took his stuff because of Brandon Estates not Horton, Horton doesn't own the stadium ffs! HC is correct if you believe everything that the Stox were saying. Horton was due to take the stadium lease in January. From that point Stox were to have an agreement with Horton to run Stox's Previous to this Stox announced they'd negotiated the stadium lease fees & team sponsorship package for Horton & the Coventry Bees with Brandon Estates Stox also agreed to contribute towards the stadium running costs Stox also stated on 3 occasions as they were just about to sign the agreement with Horton, Horton wanted to change the T's & C's Numerous time the local councillor had to negotiate with Horton & Stox Agreements reached then not etc Brandon Estates only became part of the issue when Sandhu took his toys Thus making it impossible for Horton to sign the stadium lease with Brandon Estates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woz01 3,589 Posted January 26, 2017 There is no doubt whatsoever that Horton is to blame here. Sandhu may regret his actions (and they may have been hasty), but Horton is firmly the reason why the Bees are in their current predicament. How exactly? He isn't the stadium owner, he isn't the one who took stuff out, he isn't the one who sold the site in the first place. He went out and negotiated a lease, did Sandhu? Why isn't Sandhu negotiating a lease, why didn't Sandhu negotiate a lease in the first place despite saying he would pay for everything? Brandon Estates won't let Sandhu on the site to replace things, why? Is it a grudge? Do they have 'history'? Horton didn't sign the lease but you can understand why especially as Brandon needed Sandhu's funds to run. Horton has his faults but in this instance he is the last person to blame out of the 3 parties. If Brandon Estates and Sandhu didn't have a fued would we be in this situation? No. HC is correct if you believe everything that the Stox were saying. Horton was due to take the stadium lease in January. From that point Stox were to have an agreement with Horton to run Stox's Previous to this Stox announced they'd negotiated the stadium lease fees & team sponsorship package for Horton & the Coventry Bees with Brandon Estates Stox also agreed to contribute towards the stadium running costs Stox also stated on 3 occasions as they were just about to sign the agreement with Horton, Horton wanted to change the T's & C's Numerous time the local councillor had to negotiate with Horton & Stox Agreements reached then not etc Brandon Estates only became part of the issue when Sandhu took his toys Thus making it impossible for Horton to sign the stadium lease with Brandon Estates. Unfortunately your incorrect. Brandon Estates never wanted Sandhu to operate beyond 2016. This is why Horton had to go out and get a lease instead of Sandhu extending the lease he had. If he was to pay for it all why wouldn't he be the leaseholder? This issue has been ongoing before 2016 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil The Ace 2,860 Posted January 26, 2017 If there is 1 thing we have learnt in all of this it's that we should not listen to the Coventry observer 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,030 Posted January 26, 2017 Where did the chairman official say that? Only person I saw say anything about a possible midday announcement was the writer for the Coventry Observer and even he stated it was only a possibility 'However Mr Chapman is hopeful an announcement will be made by Mick Horton before midday today.' That is where I got it from. Shame your newspaper is not as reliable as the Bournemouth Echo then! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gemini 4,894 Posted January 26, 2017 Brandon Estates never wanted Sandhu to operate beyond 2016. This is why Horton had to go out and get a lease instead of Sandhu extending the lease he had. If he was to pay for it all why wouldn't he be the leaseholder? This issue has been ongoing before 2016. And why would that be do you think? Perhaps because Sandhu and/or his family are Brandon Estates. Mick Horton is offered the lease....supposedly......Sandhu causes as much mayhem as he can making it impossible to accept. Job done. What's really also diabolical in all this is the complete silence from the Coventry promoters leaving loyal fans not knowing what's going on. Worse decision ever to treat us like this whether things are 'delicate' or not. Totally peed off. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woz01 3,589 Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) And why would that be do you think? Perhaps because Sandhu and/or his family are Brandon Estates. Mick Horton is offered the lease....supposedly......Sandhu causes as much mayhem as he can making it impossible to accept. Job done. What's really also diabolical in all this is the complete silence from the Coventry promoters leaving loyal fans not knowing what's going on. Worse decision ever to treat us like this whether things are 'delicate' or not. Totally peed off. I have no idea why but you'd have to think about why Sandhu has never even tried to get one. Doesn't make sense to me he's more than willing to pay for everything yet not be leaseholder. I can understand the silence in regard negotiations and what it entails but we could have more updates as in if things are progressing etc. We seems to get more info from CWR than anywhere else at the minute. Even if Horton did sign the lease i don't think anything would be any different. Edited January 26, 2017 by woz01 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,821 Posted January 26, 2017 There is no doubt whatsoever that Horton is to blame here. Sandhu may regret his actions (and they may have been hasty), but Horton is firmly the reason why the Bees are in their current predicament. And Sandhu selling the land has nothing to do with the current predicament. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wealdstone 3,454 Posted January 26, 2017 As I and others have said before the root of all this stems from the winter of discontent when Sandhu and Frost realised that in Speedway the BSPA mafia reign supreme. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbee 510 Posted January 26, 2017 How exactly? He isn't the stadium owner, he isn't the one who took stuff out, he isn't the one who sold the site in the first place. He went out and negotiated a lease, did Sandhu? Why isn't Sandhu negotiating a lease, why didn't Sandhu negotiate a lease in the first place despite saying he would pay for everything? Brandon Estates won't let Sandhu on the site to replace things, why? Is it a grudge? Do they have 'history'? Horton didn't sign the lease but you can understand why especially as Brandon needed Sandhu's funds to run. Horton has his faults but in this instance he is the last person to blame out of the 3 parties. If Brandon Estates and Sandhu didn't have a fued would we be in this situation? No. Unfortunately your incorrect. Brandon Estates never wanted Sandhu to operate beyond 2016. This is why Horton had to go out and get a lease instead of Sandhu extending the lease he had. If he was to pay for it all why wouldn't he be the leaseholder? This issue has been ongoing before 2016 every body is guessing you and every other poster on here do not know any thing for certain you all think you know this and that but nobody only the ones conserned in the negotiations know the answers and I doubt they will ever come out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
