Trees 2,814 Posted August 15, 2017 Can symptoms come and go, guessing so, never had concussion, plenty of migraines but not caused by that, doubt David would make that up.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starboy118 237 Posted August 15, 2017 Can symptoms come and go, guessing so, never had concussion, plenty of migraines but not caused by that, doubt David would make that up.... All sorts of things can come and go. After all, damage wrists heal in a few hours! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Skid 425 Posted August 16, 2017 So Buster let's a Rider race with concussion, he wants his Licence taking away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted August 16, 2017 Cant believe anyone would knowingly let him ride with concussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trees 2,814 Posted August 16, 2017 He had his 8/9 days off as per the rules.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Smith 5,666 Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) He had his 8/9 days off as per the rules.... Come on Trees, we've had a rider bleeting about track safety. Why should they be listened to when they don't help themselves and ride with a condition dangerous to others? Can't have it both ways Edited August 16, 2017 by Danny Smith 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ouch 1,191 Posted August 16, 2017 Batchelor withdrew on medical advice. Whatever happened to him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DWP 320 Posted August 16, 2017 Come on Trees, we've had a rider bleeting about track safety. Why should they be listened to when they don't help themselves and ride with a condition dangerous to others? Can't have it both ways[/quote Nicklas head was run over and hit by engine in Poland 30th July - he was on doctors orders not to ride for 7 days. His first meeting back was against Pila away which he scored paid14. He flew in early Monday and rode for Lynn Monday 7th v Somerset. Felt terrible all meeting escaping to changing room to get away from noise of bikes. Rye House was rained off, so had a few days resting before away to Belle Vue. Felt OK there scored paid 8. We drove to Wolves Monday, arriving at track as it was called off. He asked me to drive and told me he felt ill and had a thumping headache as I drove him from Wolves to Stansted to fly to Sweden Tuesday. In Sweden he said he didn't feel well but meeting was important for playoff spot. So he rode scoring paid 8 but again sat in changing rooms to get away from noise between his heats. After the meeting we spoke and he went to doctor who advised him to not ride and seek specialist treatment immediately. I called Buster last night to inform him that Nick was not well. Nicklas flew to Poland this morning and has an appointment with head specialist Friday. I'm not a doctor, but head trauma/ concussion can be very serious. He has told me he has not had a full nights sleep since 30th July. He says he has continual headaches, feels tired but can't sleep. We need to see what specialist says Friday, but he needs to get this sorted as I know he is just not his normal self at present. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted August 16, 2017 I think it is appalling letting Porsing ride last night, he could have a serious head injury, irrelevant whether it is important for the play offs in Sweden he should not have ridden. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted August 16, 2017 Come on Trees, we've had a rider bleeting about track safety. Why should they be listened to when they don't help themselves and ride with a condition dangerous to others? Can't have it both ways[/quote Nicklas head was run over and hit by engine in Poland 30th July - he was on doctors orders not to ride for 7 days. His first meeting back was against Pila away which he scored paid14. He flew in early Monday and rode for Lynn Monday 7th v Somerset. Felt terrible all meeting escaping to changing room to get away from noise of bikes. Rye House was rained off, so had a few days resting before away to Belle Vue. Felt OK there scored paid 8. We drove to Wolves Monday, arriving at track as it was called off. He asked me to drive and told me he felt ill and had a thumping headache as I drove him from Wolves to Stansted to fly to Sweden Tuesday. In Sweden he said he didn't feel well but meeting was important for playoff spot. So he rode scoring paid 8 but again sat in changing rooms to get away from noise between his heats. After the meeting we spoke and he went to doctor who advised him to not ride and seek specialist treatment immediately. I called Buster last night to inform him that Nick was not well. Nicklas flew to Poland this morning and has an appointment with head specialist Friday. I'm not a doctor, but head trauma/ concussion can be very serious. He has told me he has not had a full nights sleep since 30th July. He says he has continual headaches, feels tired but can't sleep. We need to see what specialist says Friday, but he needs to get this sorted as I know he is just not his normal self at present. Brilliant post, helping the ordinary fans to understand riders. Normally we all just look at their scores and brand them "crap" from time to time with no appreciation of what they're going through! Thanks, DWP. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Star Lady 5,400 Posted August 16, 2017 Come on Trees, we've had a rider bleeting about track safety. Why should they be listened to when they don't help themselves and ride with a condition dangerous to others? Can't have it both ways[/quote Nicklas head was run over and hit by engine in Poland 30th July - he was on doctors orders not to ride for 7 days. His first meeting back was against Pila away which he scored paid14. He flew in early Monday and rode for Lynn Monday 7th v Somerset. Felt terrible all meeting escaping to changing room to get away from noise of bikes. Rye House was rained off, so had a few days resting before away to Belle Vue. Felt OK there scored paid 8. We drove to Wolves Monday, arriving at track as it was called off. He asked me to drive and told me he felt ill and had a thumping headache as I drove him from Wolves to Stansted to fly to Sweden Tuesday. In Sweden he said he didn't feel well but meeting was important for playoff spot. So he rode scoring paid 8 but again sat in changing rooms to get away from noise between his heats. After the meeting we spoke and he went to doctor who advised him to not ride and seek specialist treatment immediately. I called Buster last night to inform him that Nick was not well. Nicklas flew to Poland this morning and has an appointment with head specialist Friday. I'm not a doctor, but head trauma/ concussion can be very serious. He has told me he has not had a full nights sleep since 30th July. He says he has continual headaches, feels tired but can't sleep. We need to see what specialist says Friday, but he needs to get this sorted as I know he is just not his normal self at present. This is why speedway riders ( or any athletes) are the last people to decide if they are fit to ride after concussion. from your account it is obvious something was not right and understandably he wanted to ride but it was not the best idea for him or indeed anyone on the track with him. Years ago there wasn't even a mandatory rest period maybe a check up with a doctor after that period should also now be statutory. Nothing personal against Nickolas, as I said most athletes would have done the same but there are times when riders have to be saved from themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Skid 425 Posted August 17, 2017 Concussion is one knock to the head away from dying. It means there is no room in the skull for the brain to swell, the 7 day rule is rubbish, it can take weeks for the swelling in the brain to recede, the Rider should be checked regularly to see when they are fit. Unfortunately Riders are treated like a piece of meat, and this proves it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,824 Posted August 17, 2017 There are several degrees of concussion so that's not a fair conclusion. Grade 1 is barely noticeable. The problem with the concussion rule is that every rider is treated with the same grading as a precaution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clive Ward 181 Posted August 17, 2017 The double header v Wolves is going ahead next week with a 7.30 start should be a great night of speedway. Notice some people on Facebook are moaning about the possible £25 entrance fee they feel it should still be £17 for both meetings. Just proves you can't keep some people happy. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Call me wolfie 677 Posted August 17, 2017 The double header v Wolves is going ahead next week with a 7.30 start should be a great night of speedway. Notice some people on Facebook are moaning about the possible £25 entrance fee they feel it should still be £17 for both meetings. Just proves you can't keep some people happy. That's a good price, if I remember rightly the last double header Wolves had was £30, normal entrance fee would make no business sense at all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
