Kyle Newman. Take A Bow.

[Crazy robin 2,963]

Time to make the step up from being a reserve & see how far he can go in the sport.

 

He's had it quite easy as a reserve & that is the only reason he doesn't get the credit he might deserve.

 

No premier league average should be used though.

[stevebrum 6,821]

Kyle is a great honest rider. Every team would want a Kyle in their team.

PL averages however need to be dropped next year for EDR riders.

They all have EL averages that can be converted for draft draw list assuming that these will continental with the rumoured 6 man teams happening next season.

You did your team proud Kyle.

[Former devil 51]

I'd have him at Rye House in a heartbeat, great to watch. Well done lad!

He never does anything at rye house. Hates the track!

[pointsmeanplayoffs 417]

Well done Kyle, yet again he shows that come the play offs he is ready to perform at the highest level.

 

Hopefully the whole draft system will be binned in the winter and he'll have no choice but to continue his development into the main body of the team. He has the ability to be a 1-5 rider for sure and that should be his aim.

Edited September 29, 2016 by pointsmeanplayoffs

[phillipsr 2,055]

If he is reserve next year all it will do is confirm to those that think he has no ambition that he hasnt

[Daytripper 1,123]

Well done Kyle, yet again he shows that come the play offs he is ready to perform at the highest level.

 

Hopefully the whole draft system will be binned in the winter and he'll have no choice but to continue his development into the main body of the team. He has the ability to be a 1-5 rider for sure and that should be his aim.

The draft system is here to stay. Clubs on the point of bankruptcy can't afford to bin it.

 

It will be a travesty though if the top finishing clubs once again finish up with the best reserves. If the EDR system was operated properly it would be much more popular than it is now .

[ray c 2,299]

I think you got yourself Poole rider of the year last night 100% a pirate hope we will see you back next year

[sparkafag 746]

I appreciate the chicken/egg scenario to this post, but…. If it wasn’t for the FTR system I doubt Kyle Newman would be as good as he is now.

 

There are riders who will always find their way purely based on talent (Lambert) albeit their careers being guided in the right direct helps. It is though the likes of Newman, Starke and a few others that this system has genuinely helped.

 

For all the faults re the structure of heat formatting etc and the supposed cost cutting nature of the system - there are benefits to it, there was too much a rush to see it removed and it was always going to take time.

 

If a rider like Newman (as an example) had to be afforded 2/3/4 years at "reserve" to enable to him reach the level of performance where he could pass the World Champion on his own track…good…great…more, more, more…keep doing it, keep helping British riders, keep improving the churn of British riders.

 

Personally I think given the shambolic nature of the race format in the EL that far too much is read into riders (in particularly British) on the basis of the number on their back rather than what they are doing on track and who they are beating, Newman as an example has beaten a lot of good riders and turned in a lot of good rides this season…he would have done that with 6/4/2/1/3 whatever number you wish to pick, once a race starts it means nothing.

 

It needs reworked over the winter, but the foot on the ladder/how to climb the ladder nature of the system should remain.

Edited September 29, 2016 by The Mockingjay

[dump that clutch 630]

This lad seems to have a fair bir of stick thrown in his direction over the last year.

A professional reserve with no interest in getting better. A rider who will never be anything. Reached his peak. Not as good as Garrity/Bates/sargeant etc etc etc.

 

Yet Poole fans love him. And tonight he showed exactly why. A fantastic performance of effort and tenacity. Beating the world champ from the back and never giving up. Kyle had a life threatening injury this year but tonight he put in possibly his best performancd in a Pirates race jacket.

 

Do Poole fans want him back in 2017? Hell yes! And looking at the PL GS averages he will come in on 3.16

 

Well done tonight Kyle.

I agree with most of your post, fantastic attitude, but come on.. 3.16 next season. This is where the sport falls flat on its face and gets everyone's back up.

[gimli27 54]

I would like to see Kyle in the 1-5 he has proved he can beat a lot of riders in other 1-5 slots if he has a few iffy meetings then as per the rules he will end up as 6 or 7 anyway i honestly feel he can stay as a number 2 or 4 and wont end up as a reserve

[Steve Shovlar 10,439]

I agree with most of your post, fantastic attitude, but come on.. 3.16 next season. This is where the sport falls flat on its face and gets everyone's back up.

The only way edr riders can get a fair average is to use their pl average. They can use their edr average as it would put all of them out of a team place. Kyles pl gs average is 6.31. If the conversion is 0.5, he is 3.16.

 

How else can averages be worked out? Their pl average is not manipulated by easy el reserve rides.

[Crazy robin 2,963]

The only way edr riders can get a fair average is to use their pl average. They can use their edr average as it would put all of them out of a team place. Kyles pl gs average is 6.31. If the conversion is 0.5, he is 3.16.

 

How else can averages be worked out? Their pl average is not manipulated by easy el reserve rides.

No but their Premier league average is easily manipulated & you have to question how Kyle has such a low average.

[stevebrum 6,821]

The only way edr riders can get a fair average is to use their pl average. They can use their edr average as it would put all of them out of a team place. Kyles pl gs average is 6.31. If the conversion is 0.5, he is 3.16.

How else can averages be worked out? Their pl average is not manipulated by easy el reserve rides.

They can use their EDR averages for draft order picks. Makes way more sense.

Have a feeling that it will only be one EDR next year tho if we go to 6 man teams.

[Skidder1 7,637]

As suggested on the Poole forum, Kyle (and Adam) should be Poole's riders in the ELRC on 8th October - assuming its still on?!

[E I Addio 15,845]

I appreciate the chicken/egg scenario to this post, but…. If it wasn’t for the FTR system I doubt Kyle Newman would be as good as he is now.

 

There are riders who will always find their way purely based on talent (Lambert) albeit their careers being guided in the right direct helps. It is though the likes of Newman, Starke and a few others that this system has genuinely helped.

 

For all the faults re the structure of heat formatting etc and the supposed cost cutting nature of the system - there are benefits to it, there was too much a rush to see it removed and it was always going to take time.

 

If a rider like Newman (as an example) had to be afforded 2/3/4 years at "reserve" to enable to him reach the level of performance where he could pass the World Champion on his own track…good…great…more, more, more…keep doing it, keep helping British riders, keep improving the churn of British riders.

 

Personally I think given the shambolic nature of the race format in the EL that far too much is read into riders (in particularly British) on the basis of the number on their back rather than what they are doing on track and who they are beating, Newman as an example has beaten a lot of good riders and turned in a lot of good rides this season…he would have done that with 6/4/2/1/3 whatever number you wish to pick, once a race starts it means nothing.

 

It needs reworked over the winter, but the foot on the ladder/how to climb the ladder nature of the system should remain.

 

 

All that is true. Agreed the system works for the benefit of riders with ability but the problem is that it is manipulated to the benefit of certain clubs. No way should Newman be at Poole year after year as an EDR reserve. There should be more moving between clubs so that the bottom clubs one year get a clear first choice of reserves the following year. Of course , the system will never operate to its full potential while the PL numpties refuse to have anything to do with it. There needs to be graduated progress from NL to PL reserve then PL to EL reserve, in order to give the widest possible opportunities to riders and the widest pool of riders gaining experience for clubs to choose from. The fact that a high scoring reserve like Newman has spent three years with the same club is an indictment of the system.