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Not sure why some are moaning about Kyle Newman at reserve. He has a pl average so will be a sub 4 pointer. Doubt there will be two riders with a lower average than Kyle so reserve it will be.

Why convert an average from a different league with different riders,when you could just convert his average from the actual league he would be in.All the EDRs now have an EL average just convert those.You simply want his average converted from the PL as this would no doubt put him on a lower average.

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Why convert an average from a different league with different riders,when you could just convert his average from the actual league he would be in.All the EDRs now have an EL average just convert those.You simply want his average converted from the PL as this would no doubt put him on a lower average.

No. its the way its always been done. The edr average is all over the place with some riders remaining at reserve most of the season while other riders have moved up into the team and remained there.

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No. its the way its always been done. The edr average is all over the place with some riders remaining at reserve most of the season while other riders have moved up into the team and remained there.

Yes. But it is simple enough to convert El averages, which are the releant ones here. SCB has done it for every roder who raced El in 16. By far the fairest way.
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I was told he said on the Poole forum that he was taking a break...?

Definately isnt taking a break. If you say something he doesnt like expect to get a personal message from him telling you not to have an opinion!!

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No. its the way its always been done. The edr average is all over the place with some riders remaining at reserve most of the season while other riders have moved up into the team and remained there.

You may as well have Kyle at reserve until he retires

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You may as well have Kyle at reserve until he retires

If he improves enough to get out of the reserve berth then great.

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No. its the way its always been done. The edr average is all over the place with some riders remaining at reserve most of the season while other riders have moved up into the team and remained there.

While most people think a converted EL average is the way to go,only you and a few others think otherwise.If Newman had a 10pt PL average you would alter your decision for sure.You will not think outside the box and will only like decisions that benefit Poole.

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Everybody knows and it has been well documented that they won't use the premier league conversion. Except one person seems to think they will and keeps banging that drum hoping someone will listen lol. Haven't checked the away matches but Kyle only rode 3 home matches in the top 5 scoring 6 , 5 and 2. Take those scores out of his average and then you have a true average for him.

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Newman's average can't be that high otherwise Matt wouldn't have said publically that there is a good chance of him being in the team.

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If the PL to EL conversion is still 0.6 then Jack Holder should come in on 4.30 or thereabouts, which would probably put him at reserve (The EDR system will NOT be in place). Assuming 2016 EDR's are reassessed at say 80% of their final EL average then that would put Newman at around 4.42.

 

That would mean that Kyle Newman would be the other reserve with the 1-5 looking something like:-

 

C.Holder 8.95 (or KK 7.91); B.Kurtz 6.44 (or Milik 5.67); C.Harris 6.58; K. Gomolski 5.51; H.Andersen 7.15

 

Eddie Kennett's average of 7.16 would make him too much of a risk imo. Unless they have to lose a few points from the team-building points limit, Although the KK option with BK would give a team points total of 42.31. (KK with Milik would be 41.54 and would also meet any 'No GP riders' ruling?)

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Newman's average can't be that high otherwise Matt wouldn't have said publically that there is a good chance of him being in the team.

no it will be somewhere between 4.5 and 5.5 I would guess which is exactly what it should be. Not a cat in hells chance it will be under 4. Bout time he was a second string anyway

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I think the points limit will come down to suit other promoters and any new team that's fancies the elite league next season

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If the PL to EL conversion is still 0.6 then Jack Holder should come in on 4.30 or thereabouts, which would probably put him at reserve (The EDR system will NOT be in place). Assuming 2016 EDR's are reassessed at say 80% of their final EL average then that would put Newman at around 4.42.

 

That would mean that Kyle Newman would be the other reserve with the 1-5 looking something like:-

 

C.Holder 8.95 (or KK 7.91); B.Kurtz 6.44; C.Harris 6.58; K. Gomolski 5.51; H.Andersen 7.15

 

Eddie Kennett's average of 7.16 would make him too much of a risk imo. Unless they have to lose a few points from the team-building points limit, Although the KK option would give a team points total of 42.31.

4.5 to 5 seems fair for Newman

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I have no issue with any reassessed average under 5 for Kyle Newman, as long as the methodology or calculation is transparent for all EDRs.!!

 

eg 90% of his final EL average would put him on 4.97.

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Newman's average can't be that high otherwise Matt wouldn't have said publically that there is a good chance of him being in the team.

Depends whether he gets his own way again

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