tellboy 3,662 Posted October 16, 2016 Not sure why some are moaning about Kyle Newman at reserve. He has a pl average so will be a sub 4 pointer. Doubt there will be two riders with a lower average than Kyle so reserve it will be. Why convert an average from a different league with different riders,when you could just convert his average from the actual league he would be in.All the EDRs now have an EL average just convert those.You simply want his average converted from the PL as this would no doubt put him on a lower average. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted October 16, 2016 Why convert an average from a different league with different riders,when you could just convert his average from the actual league he would be in.All the EDRs now have an EL average just convert those.You simply want his average converted from the PL as this would no doubt put him on a lower average. No. its the way its always been done. The edr average is all over the place with some riders remaining at reserve most of the season while other riders have moved up into the team and remained there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted October 16, 2016 No. its the way its always been done. The edr average is all over the place with some riders remaining at reserve most of the season while other riders have moved up into the team and remained there.Yes. But it is simple enough to convert El averages, which are the releant ones here. SCB has done it for every roder who raced El in 16. By far the fairest way. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Former devil 51 Posted October 16, 2016 I was told he said on the Poole forum that he was taking a break...? Definately isnt taking a break. If you say something he doesnt like expect to get a personal message from him telling you not to have an opinion!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Game On 1,117 Posted October 16, 2016 No. its the way its always been done. The edr average is all over the place with some riders remaining at reserve most of the season while other riders have moved up into the team and remained there. You may as well have Kyle at reserve until he retires 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted October 16, 2016 You may as well have Kyle at reserve until he retires If he improves enough to get out of the reserve berth then great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tellboy 3,662 Posted October 16, 2016 No. its the way its always been done. The edr average is all over the place with some riders remaining at reserve most of the season while other riders have moved up into the team and remained there. While most people think a converted EL average is the way to go,only you and a few others think otherwise.If Newman had a 10pt PL average you would alter your decision for sure.You will not think outside the box and will only like decisions that benefit Poole. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,050 Posted October 16, 2016 (edited) Everybody knows and it has been well documented that they won't use the premier league conversion. Except one person seems to think they will and keeps banging that drum hoping someone will listen lol. Haven't checked the away matches but Kyle only rode 3 home matches in the top 5 scoring 6 , 5 and 2. Take those scores out of his average and then you have a true average for him. Edited October 16, 2016 by Gavan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,032 Posted October 16, 2016 Newman's average can't be that high otherwise Matt wouldn't have said publically that there is a good chance of him being in the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted October 16, 2016 (edited) If the PL to EL conversion is still 0.6 then Jack Holder should come in on 4.30 or thereabouts, which would probably put him at reserve (The EDR system will NOT be in place). Assuming 2016 EDR's are reassessed at say 80% of their final EL average then that would put Newman at around 4.42. That would mean that Kyle Newman would be the other reserve with the 1-5 looking something like:- C.Holder 8.95 (or KK 7.91); B.Kurtz 6.44 (or Milik 5.67); C.Harris 6.58; K. Gomolski 5.51; H.Andersen 7.15 Eddie Kennett's average of 7.16 would make him too much of a risk imo. Unless they have to lose a few points from the team-building points limit, Although the KK option with BK would give a team points total of 42.31. (KK with Milik would be 41.54 and would also meet any 'No GP riders' ruling?) Edited October 16, 2016 by Skidder1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,050 Posted October 16, 2016 Newman's average can't be that high otherwise Matt wouldn't have said publically that there is a good chance of him being in the team. no it will be somewhere between 4.5 and 5.5 I would guess which is exactly what it should be. Not a cat in hells chance it will be under 4. Bout time he was a second string anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ray c 2,299 Posted October 16, 2016 I think the points limit will come down to suit other promoters and any new team that's fancies the elite league next season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve0 5,517 Posted October 16, 2016 If the PL to EL conversion is still 0.6 then Jack Holder should come in on 4.30 or thereabouts, which would probably put him at reserve (The EDR system will NOT be in place). Assuming 2016 EDR's are reassessed at say 80% of their final EL average then that would put Newman at around 4.42. That would mean that Kyle Newman would be the other reserve with the 1-5 looking something like:- C.Holder 8.95 (or KK 7.91); B.Kurtz 6.44; C.Harris 6.58; K. Gomolski 5.51; H.Andersen 7.15 Eddie Kennett's average of 7.16 would make him too much of a risk imo. Unless they have to lose a few points from the team-building points limit, Although the KK option would give a team points total of 42.31. 4.5 to 5 seems fair for Newman 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted October 16, 2016 (edited) I have no issue with any reassessed average under 5 for Kyle Newman, as long as the methodology or calculation is transparent for all EDRs.!! eg 90% of his final EL average would put him on 4.97. Edited October 16, 2016 by Skidder1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbee 510 Posted October 16, 2016 Newman's average can't be that high otherwise Matt wouldn't have said publically that there is a good chance of him being in the team.Depends whether he gets his own way again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites