Crump99 4,476 Posted October 24, 2016 If there is a furter reduction in the quality of the product there needs to be a reduction in prices to go along with it or crowds will drop even more and the proposed reduction in costs will be a waste of time When does any part of any entertainment industry reduce its quality year on year and, not only still expect people to turn up, but expect people to pay more for the privilege. and promoters wonder why crowds are going down The remaining hardcore will turn up irrespective of the price for the race to the bottom. Problem being that if any of those lose interest or can no longer attend for whatever reason then it's unlikely that anybody new has come on board to fill the void. Rather than trying to turn that around, their default setting each year now is water down the product and cross their fingers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mac101 1,201 Posted October 24, 2016 Rumours are 40.5 points limit new NL riders to come in on a 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronScorpion 1,407 Posted October 24, 2016 Rumours are 40.5 points limit new NL riders to come in on a 2 "new NL riders" meaning new NL riders in 2017 or "new NL riders" not ridden in the PL before or "new NL riders" not declared in the PL before Grey areas & interpretations!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crump99 4,476 Posted October 24, 2016 "new NL riders" meaning new NL riders in 2017 or "new NL riders" not ridden in the PL before or "new NL riders" not declared in the PL before Grey areas & interpretations!!! It interprets into a good reason to do something else so perfectly clear if implemented. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
New era Panthers 2,055 Posted October 24, 2016 It interprets into a good reason to do something else so perfectly clear if implemented. Clear as muddy waters then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted October 25, 2016 and the guys who have obtained an average of just over 3.00 are binned, just like branford last season. hope not . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cheggie 72 Posted October 25, 2016 and the guys who have obtained an average of just over 3.00 are binned, just like branford last season. hope not . This is why I asked regarding the 3 pointer rule that was implemented this year - what is going to happen to these riders next year? As I thought the whole point of the exercise was to help British riders and British Speedway progress in the right direction??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) i think 3 point riders who came into the pl and gained a slightly higher average should be allowed back into the pl on their new average @ number 7 . the likes of dan bewley who achieved a 4 point average should be able to return to the number 7 berth ,.. its the only way to keep young and old brits (ayres) in the pl and gaining experience . big payment out at Glasgow for mr bewley .lol. if we dont do this there will be an even bigger shortage of British talent around in future years . Edited October 26, 2016 by jenga 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crump99 4,476 Posted October 25, 2016 This is why I asked regarding the 3 pointer rule that was implemented this year - what is going to happen to these riders next year? As I thought the whole point of the exercise was to help British riders and British Speedway progress in the right direction??? If they were that bothered about that they'd put real effort in instead of annual tinkering to theoretically save costs. The progress snowball started down the wrong side of the hill years ago, it's got no brakes and has yet to hit the bottom. Having said that, what's your definition of right direction? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sings4Speedway 3,247 Posted October 25, 2016 Rumours are 40.5 points limit new NL riders to come in on a 2 On that basis my side with plenty of room for improvement is 1. R. Wells - 7.71 2. T.Kurtz - 5.76 3. K.Doolan - 6.99 4. L.Bjerre - 6.65 5. Howarth - 7.18 6. M.Clegg - 4.04 7. T.Bacon - 2.00 Total 4.033 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve55 340 Posted October 25, 2016 If it is 2 points for new riders from the NL Sheffield ought to get Jack Smith at reserve with JPB (been good for the Brummies this year) this will give more points to play with the top end. Will have to wait and see what they dream up at the meeting this time! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GWC 495 Posted October 25, 2016 IF the EL were to increase teams and meetings then I can see the PL going to 2 reserves from the NL and a lower points limit. More PL riders would want to move up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mac101 1,201 Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) And the EL will probably put the team average up to around 48-50 to fit riders that can't get pl team Edited October 25, 2016 by mac101 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flappy 1,605 Posted October 25, 2016 Can't keep weakening the product 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted October 25, 2016 They have to, to make the already weak product look stronger 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
