foamfence 2,917 Posted March 15, 2017 Interesting thread on Facebook some may not have seen: go to Speedwaygp page Can't find it, it would help if I knew what I was looking for. can anyone post a link? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maneacat 473 Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) Can't find it, it would help if I knew what I was looking for. can anyone post a link?Please be patient and I will try. http://www.speedwaygp.com/news/article/5567/ford-defiant-on-holder-statement For those on Facebook some interesting comments on the thread to read also. Edited March 15, 2017 by maneacat 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted March 15, 2017 Please be patient and I will try. http://www.speedwaygp.com/news/article/5567/ford-defiant-on-holder-statement For those on Facebook some interesting comments on the thread to read also. It was the Facebook comments I was after. No matter though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish McRaker 601 Posted March 15, 2017 Criminal for J.Holder, Grazjanoker, Masters and E.Riss to have two jobs each whilst so many Brits only have one (and want/need another). No excuse for that. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattK 3,447 Posted March 15, 2017 The sensible thing would be for the authorities from each league to get together and determine an order of priority for riders in the even of clashes. Given there is no agreement it seems reasonable for Poland to draw a line in the sand. Rather than getting stroppy about it, the BSPA should put together their own counter proposal, based on similar regulation to which are already applicable to the British leagues, You can't really blame Poland, as the dominant league, for stepping into the vacuum and trying to protect their teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OveFundinFan 4,145 Posted March 15, 2017 Well done Matt Ford, pity if others have caved in and signed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted March 15, 2017 The sensible thing would be for the authorities from each league to get together and determine an order of priority for riders in the even of clashes. Given there is no agreement it seems reasonable for Poland to draw a line in the sand. Rather than getting stroppy about it, the BSPA should put together their own counter proposal, based on similar regulation to which are already applicable to the British leagues, You can't really blame Poland, as the dominant league, for stepping into the vacuum and trying to protect their teams. You can blame Poland! At this rate they will be the only professional Speedway country left! They already have three GPs and the top league but greed has gotten hold of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 valve 558 Posted March 15, 2017 so many Brits only have one (and want/need another). No excuse for that. yes there is...they are not good enough. If teams were to be built on nationality more than available skill fans would soon start complaining. Feeder leagues and training programs is the answer to developing better UK riders as opposed to giving them jobs over better existing talent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted March 15, 2017 yes there is...they are not good enough. If teams were to be built on nationality more than available skill fans would soon start complaining. Feeder leagues and training programs is the answer to developing better UK riders as opposed to giving them jobs over better existing talent. So Sedgmen is better than King is he? Or Fricke is better than King? Well not if he's in Poland practising or whatever. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GWC 495 Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) Well done Matt Ford, pity if others have caved in and signed.If you build your team with imports then you have to abide by the rules the country of origin promote.Quite agree that Aussies should not be subject to this rule but as non EU residence then it's the power of the work permit and twit for tat as to who is the biggest employer - Poland pays the most so the rider won't offend his employer. Will he get paid is the question. Edited March 15, 2017 by GWC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryW 1,178 Posted March 15, 2017 The sensible thing would be for the authorities from each league to get together and determine an order of priority for riders in the even of clashes. Given there is no agreement it seems reasonable for Poland to draw a line in the sand.There was an FIM backed agreement in place until this year. The Polish Extraliga authorities have decided they no longer like that agreement and so have decided to bin it. It's hard to criticise them for asking riders to put their matches first when they are paying the most. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THE DEAN MACHINE 4,756 Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) You can blame Poland! At this rate they will be the only professional Speedway country left! They already have three GPs and the top league but greed has gotten hold of them.Poland are not doing anything wrong with this , the only wrong part is it is to the detriment of british speedway , the poles are protecting the future of polish speedway and its fans ,if the boot was on the other foot we would all be praising the bspa, we however don't prioritize our own riders and even with the Coventry situation the fact that a brit hasn't a team place and some foreigners have 2 is shambolic Edited March 15, 2017 by THE DEAN MACHINE 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,784 Posted March 15, 2017 To me it's pretty simple you have a date by which all countries have to have their league's fixtures declared by. If there are any alterations after this time then tough luck on the club who can't use a rider because he has always been committed to being elsewhere as per the declaration date. If any rider kicks off because he can't get his own way then the FIM ban him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted March 16, 2017 Poland are not doing anything wrong with this , the only wrong part is it is to the detriment of british speedway , the poles are protecting the future of polish speedway and its fans ,if the boot was on the other foot we would all be praising the bspa, we however don't prioritize our own riders and even with the Coventry situation the fact that a brit hasn't a team place and some foreigners have 2 is shambolic Well as you're a lover of all things Polish I might have expected that. The fact is that the boot isn't on the other foot and it seems that they wont be happy until the other foot has been rendered totally ineffective. At the rate they are going theirs will be the only professional league. What next, even more GPs to add to their current 3? You're right though, they haven't done anything wrong...on paper anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Master 88 10 Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) I have said it before and no doubt will say it again, If Poland has 3 British riders in there league we only have 3 polish riders in ours, and so on all over, So many British riders could use the double up now, which would give them a second income to reinvest in there equipment, yet we have so many Aussies again, Premier division 3 overseas riders only, Championship division 2 overseas riders National league division no overseas riders. I am so feed up with helping every tom dick and chris to get where they are now, and pushing the British boys back, Chris holder is giving large on Twitter, yet look at all his British sponsors, don't make any sense. Edited March 16, 2017 by The Master 88 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites