foreverblue 6,115 Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) so Wolves can lose Masters won't affect the result but yet Poole can lose Kurtz and they are severely weakened! Of course Wolves are weakened . 2 lower average riders plus a reserve take his rides!! Do you think his 4 rides will get more than the 9 he got last time when let me remind you , you WON!!!! You have replaced KK who got 4 with a better rider at Monmore in Kennett and you still have track specialist Worrall in there as well!!! You won there last time You have a stronger 1-7 this time Wolves missing a heat leader How can Poole lose??? Having Worrall in place of Kurtz makes Poole stronger as Worrall was terrific last time as Kurtz has never ridden the track well. Wolves are missing Masters but he can be hit and miss at Monmore so a loss maybe but not a big one as most of their riders apart from the reserves can beat anyone at Wolves, Thorsell is almost unbeatable there, Howarth is having a great season and Schlein has been good too. Looks like a easy win for Wolves to me. Edited August 5, 2017 by foreverblue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pirate Baz 218 Posted August 5, 2017 so Wolves can lose Masters won't affect the result but yet Poole can lose Kurtz and they are severely weakened! Of course Wolves are weakened . 2 lower average riders plus a reserve take his rides!! Do you think his 4 rides will get more than the 9 he got last time when let me remind you , you WON!!!! You have replaced KK who got 4 with a better rider at Monmore in Kennett and you still have track specialist Worrall in there as well!!! You won there last time You have a stronger 1-7 this time Wolves missing a heat leader How can Poole lose??? Bet your bookmaker loves it when you come through the door. If we hold them to 20 I'll be surprised. Wolves were unlucky last time. Howarth to make up for last times misfortune and go through the card. Hmm. Might see what the odds are for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thecoombdog 2,367 Posted August 5, 2017 so Wolves can lose Masters won't affect the result but yet Poole can lose Kurtz and they are severely weakened! Of course Wolves are weakened . 2 lower average riders plus a reserve take his rides!! Do you think his 4 rides will get more than the 9 he got last time when let me remind you , you WON!!!! You have replaced KK who got 4 with a better rider at Monmore in Kennett and you still have track specialist Worrall in there as well!!! You won there last time You have a stronger 1-7 this time Wolves missing a heat leader How can Poole lose??? If Poole are such a cert then will you be lumping on at a likely big price? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,062 Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) Ive said i expected Wolves to win by 6 in an earlier post but now they have lost Masters. Lets look at the facts. Last time Wolves lost Howarth early on. His rides were taken by lesser riders. Wolves lost the meeting This time Wolves have lost Masters. 3 of his rides will be taken by lesser riders. Masters scored 8+1 last time from 4 rides. Will that be matched by his replacements? Poole had KK riding he scored 4 from 4 Kennett is better than KK at Monmore i would expect him to beat that. Kurtz will still be missing and Worrall riding which again is a bonus at Monmore. So last time Poole won by 4 points. Wolves are missing a rider again Poole have a better rider than KK riding for them. A lot will hinge on wether Starke can reproduce his score from last time. Im stunned why Poole fans have no faith in their team.......winning at Monmore last time and now going back stronger??? If Poole lose this by 10 or more then there must be something very wrong in the pirates camp. Ive listed the facts of the last meeting compared to this...if you have a different opinion to those facts then please tell me! Pathetic trolling. If you actually believe the above twaddle you know nothing of the sport. Come on then show me your knowledge! What have i written that is false please?? Did you win last time at Monmore??? YES Do you have a stronger 1-7 this time??? YES Are Wolves missing a heat leader??? YES So come on then if you know so much about the sport what is incorrect about any of the above!!!!!!! Edited August 5, 2017 by Gavan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CB252 1,376 Posted August 5, 2017 Kennett is better than KK at Monmore i would expect him to beat that. Kurtz will still be missing and Worrall riding which again is a bonus at Monmore. So last time Poole won by 4 points. Wolves are missing a rider again Poole have a better rider than KK riding for them. Kennett got 0 in April at Monmore and looked all at sea. Only 5 on his two visits with Lakeside as a second string last year as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,829 Posted August 5, 2017 Wolves are missing Masters but he can be hit and miss at Monmore so a loss maybe but not a big one as most of their riders apart from the reserves can beat anyone at Wolves, Masters has a home average of 8.53, not sure where you got hit and miss from. Kennett got 0 in April at Monmore and looked all at sea. Only 5 on his two visits with Lakeside as a second string last year as well. His last few visits have been pretty poor I agree, however he is still 10 times better than KK at Monmore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,062 Posted August 5, 2017 All im trying to say is that if my team had won away at another track, then went back to the same track and had a slightly stronger 1-7 i would be more than hopeful that we would win there again, especially as the home side are missing a rider who scored paid 9 in the meeting and his rides to be taken by other riders who are unlikely to score the same. I have no idea why this is classed as trolling by the same usual Poole fan. Im merely stating facts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,356 Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) Im stunned why Poole fans have no faith in their team.......winning at Monmore last time and now going back stronger??? If Poole lose this by 10 or more then there must be something very wrong in the pirates camp. Ive listed the facts of the last meeting compared to this...if you have a different opinion to those facts then please tell me! What have i written that is false please?? Did you win last time at Monmore??? YES Do you have a stronger 1-7 this time??? YES Are Wolves missing a heat leader??? YES It doesn't always follow. You should know that. Edited August 5, 2017 by Starman2006 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,658 Posted August 5, 2017 Since our fortunate away win last time, Poole have lost away by 28 and 22 points respectively at 2 of the top 3 teams - not withstanding the run of home defeats too. The team on Monday will be virtually the same - although there may be changes in the riding order (hopefully) - so on current form and very low confidence I see nothing other than a home win!! If Poole manage to get an away point I shall be delighted - not to say surprised and relieved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,062 Posted August 5, 2017 It doesn't always follow. Nope you are correct it doesnt Starke may not have a good night and Lindgren only got 7 from 5 you would expect more. I think Wolves will win by 6 points ive already said that. What i object to is being told i know nothing by Shovlar......its factual that Poole are stronger this time and Wolves will miss Masters Since our fortunate away win last time, Poole have lost away by 28 and 22 points respectively at 2 of the top 3 teams - not withstanding the run of home defeats too. The team on Monday will be virtually the same - although there may be changes in the riding order (hopefully) - so on current form and very low confidence I see nothing other than a home win!! If Poole manage to get an away point I shall be delighted - not to say surprised and relieved. Well according to Shovlar and others it wasnt fortunate last time! Wolves by 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,658 Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) I guess it might depend on whether the temporary Wolves Manager (with Poole connections?!) can get his riders to perform down the 'straightaways' or whether Middlo can get the Poole boys to successfully negotiate the 'Karlsson corridor' again!? Poole might not even have Holder if he is a no show on Sunday and riding in Poland..... Jack Holder is not listed in the Torun team for Sunday and is scheduled to take part in the 4's at Peterborough. Edited August 5, 2017 by Skidder1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fourentee 988 Posted August 5, 2017 I suspect the worry again here for Wolves will be the reserve berth, with one of Masters' rides to be filled there. Even in last week's 22-point home win over Somerset the reserves were outscored 11-4 and it might well only take an injury among the remaining top four to see the side put under the same pressure as in the previous defeat to Poole. Doubtless Middlo will be pumping up his team by reminding them of that victory. On the other hand those four Wolves riders all scored heavily at home last week and the Pirates are not in great form at the moment. I'll go, not without some lingering anxiety, for a 6-10pt home win. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobMcCaffery 2,752 Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) I guess it might depend on whether the temporary Wolves Manager (with Poole connections?!) can get his riders to perform down the 'straightaways' or whether Middlo can get the Poole boys to successfully negotiate the 'Karlsson corridor' again!? Jack Holder is not listed in the Torun team for Sunday and is scheduled to take part in the 4's at Peterborough. Try reading this. Google Translate will put it into English. Polish teams often change on the day. https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/702676/kolejne-dobre-wiesci-dla-kibicow-get-well-torun-terminski-dopial-swego-w-sprawie Clearly your knowledge of Polish speedway is as limited as your understanding of the British version. Edited August 5, 2017 by Rob McCaffery Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve0 5,517 Posted August 5, 2017 All im trying to say is that if my team had won away at another track, then went back to the same track and had a slightly stronger 1-7 i would be more than hopeful that we would win there again, especially as the home side are missing a rider who scored paid 9 in the meeting and his rides to be taken by other riders who are unlikely to score the same. I have no idea why this is classed as trolling by the same usual Poole fan. Im merely stating facts Yes but we all know that SS likes to tag Poole as the underdogs and then big them up if they win! Having said that, Poole are on an extended downturn at the moment and Wolves should win 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,062 Posted August 5, 2017 Yes but we all know that SS likes to tag Poole as the underdogs and then big them up if they win! Having said that, Poole are on an extended downturn at the moment and Wolves should win 100% agree Ive said on the first page Wolves by 6. But he says if i believed what i wrote i have no speedway knowledge. He is yet to come back with the answers to my questions lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
