waiheke1 4,295 Posted August 5, 2017 We are seeing very few or the best riders in World regularly in GB now,and even then only when it suits themselves ,I just want to see riders committing to GB and not messing us about.Race all over the world if they like but Britain the priority.Good Speedway doesn't always need the best riders in the world.So maybe we should just say if you want to ride in Britain, you can ride only in Britain, your home country and one other league. And Britain must be given priority in event if a fixture clash.Would that seem reasonable? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,389 Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) So maybe we should just say if you want to ride in Britain, you can ride only in Britain, your home country and one other league. And Britain must be given priority in event if a fixture clash. Would that seem reasonable? Like I said I don't mind how many Countries they ride in but GB has to be their priority.There is a crop of Young Brits coming through they deserve a chance in their own Country,rather than Young riders from other countries .Poland certainly look after the young riders ,we should look after ours. Edited August 5, 2017 by Fromafar 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OveFundinFan 4,145 Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) And what would one do with the young Brits that develop in the UK, then get to a point they want international experience/another country takes an interest in them, and off they fly to pastures greener. Cant blame them if the money/world fame is there and not here. Can you blame them for wanting that, can you stop them doing it?? And what if a world class rider with connections around the speedway world, turns manager/trainer of a team of young Brit hopefuls. That would be an interesting scenario. Edited August 5, 2017 by OveFundinFan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted August 5, 2017 And what would one do with the young Brits that develop in the UK, then get to a point they want international experience/another country takes an interest in them, and off they fly to pastures greener. Cant blame them if the money/world fame is there and not here. Can you blame them for wanting that, can you stop them doing it?? And what if a world class rider with connections around the speedway world, turns manager/trainer of a team of young Brit hopefuls. That would be an interesting scenario. They would be subject to the same rules as foreign riders, prioritise your British commitments or ride abroad. The most likely thing is that they'd start in the Polish lower leagues, which don't currently impose the same restrictions as the top league (I believe Bates and Ellis currently do that). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,389 Posted August 5, 2017 And what would one do with the young Brits that develop in the UK, then get to a point they want international experience/another country takes an interest in them, and off they fly to pastures greener. Cant blame them if the money/world fame is there and not here. Can you blame them for wanting that, can you stop them doing it?? And what if a world class rider with connections around the speedway world, turns manager/trainer of a team of young Brit hopefuls. That would be an interesting scenario. When it is time to move on fair enough .The situation in British Speedway at the moment is unexceptable the way the fans are treated.What we are watching is not Team speedway,it's whatever 14 riders they can find on the night including guests and R/r. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trees 2,814 Posted August 5, 2017 Aussies have always been an integral part of British Speedway, it's up to promoters of the day to employ them or not, give them good deals or not. They have to make a success of their speedway careers here or they are off back down under, simple as that really. Over the years British Speedway fans have delighted in the talent and form of their Aussie riders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Star Lady 5,400 Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) Aussies have always been an integral part of British Speedway, it's up to promoters of the day to employ them or not, give them good deals or not. They have to make a success of their speedway careers here or they are off back down under, simple as that really. Over the years British Speedway fans have delighted in the talent and form of their Aussie riders. Past history Trees. That does not give Aussies or anyone else the right to rubbish on British Speedway from a great height. I can't imagine Crump, Sullivan, Adams or Parker behaving as the current crop of Aussies are doing. Edited August 5, 2017 by Star Lady 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 21,013 Posted August 5, 2017 Past history Trees. That does not give Aussies or anyone else the right to rubbish on British Speedway from a great height. I can't imagine Crump, Sullivan, Adams or Parker behaving as the current crop of Aussies are doing. Spot on.Totally different situation and we need to adapt......fast!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trees 2,814 Posted August 5, 2017 Past history Trees. That does not give Aussies or anyone else the right to rubbish on British Speedway from a great height. I can't imagine Crump, Sullivan, Adams or Parker behaving as the current crop of Aussies are doing. They have all been pretty forthright with their opinions over the years ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Smith 5,672 Posted August 5, 2017 Aussies have always been an integral part of British Speedway, it's up to promoters of the day to employ them or not, give them good deals or not. They have to make a success of their speedway careers here or they are off back down under, simple as that really. Over the years British Speedway fans have delighted in the talent and form of their Aussie riders. You seem to have a contradiction in your attitude. In one hand you're angry with the GP series for having a detrimental effect on British Speedway, then on the other couldn't care less about Aussies taking the p!ss 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trees 2,814 Posted August 5, 2017 You seem to have a contradiction in your attitude. In one hand you're angry with the GP series for having a detrimental effect on British Speedway, then on the other couldn't care less about Aussies taking the p!ss No, I don't like the fact that the GP Series is owned by an independant company so league speedway does not benefit .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Star Lady 5,400 Posted August 5, 2017 They have all been pretty forthright with their opinions over the years ... It's one thing to voice opinions but quite another to walk out of meetings and treat fans with contempt. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Smith 5,672 Posted August 5, 2017 No, I don't like the fact that the GP Series is owned by an independant company so league speedway does not benefit .... Oh right, so where's the benefit in the Aussies doing runners to Poland?!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave the Mic 258 Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) That seems sensible...and yet some people on here have had a right moan about the Polish league doing exactly this! Yes, but it's very different. How many riders get a chance in Poland if they have no pedigree? None. Riders come to the UK, get a good grounding in a competitive situation & then once it suits them, they leave. Even Woffinden did it. The point is, if they are contracted here, they should ride & Jack Holder should be suspended as he should be riding in the fours. As he isn't, he is withholding his services. The Polish league invests nothing in these riders until they are proven. These riders are using the UK, until it doesn't suit them to race here. The approach taken this week (if the rider sycophants would shut up) should help a few of the Aussies realise they will no longer be allowed to mess British Speedway around. Let's hope so. All those sticking up for what Holder & Batchelor did, need to look at themselves. They are not "poor victimised speedway riders". Edited August 5, 2017 by Dave the Mic 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 5, 2017 It seems more than ever British Speedway is being taken for a ride and just being used for VISA's to ride abroad. Now Jack Holder is playing the game, a relatively new rider to Speedway across here and no doubt already being influenced. Maybe we should now do what we did to the American's many years ago. 7 average or above in the top league or VISA's are no longer renewed 9 Average or above in the 2nd league or VISA's are no longer renewed A rather harsh PROPOSED attitude towards Australian riders IMO. Basically, it is to the Australian influence in the early 1920s and the support they gave to the introduction of speedway (aka dirt track racing) to the UK in 1928 that there is UK speedway these days. Fortunately, I am fairly certain that the idea will not even be considered by those who govern and guide UK speedway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
