847084 99 Posted September 30, 2017 No definitive news on Freddie's condition. He is expecting more information on Sunday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark 1,497 Posted September 30, 2017 Have a look at Bjerre's Twitter as there is a video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted September 30, 2017 https://twitter.com/kenneth_bjerre/status/914091321954045952 Here's the incident. Still say it's a 50/50 call, For those saying Bjerre was ahead, impossible for Lindgren to get over him as he did if that was the case. There was room for Bjerre to have taken a tighter inside line, likewise Lindgren could have gone wider. Shutting the door into corners is part and parcel of racing at the highest level, especially in GP's, if you are making a move up the inside you better make sure you've got a clean run as the referees do exclude the one on the inside the majority of the time. Not always correctly I might add. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark 1,497 Posted September 30, 2017 https://twitter.com/kenneth_bjerre/status/914091321954045952 Here's the incident. Still say it's a 50/50 call, For those saying Bjerre was ahead, impossible for Lindgren to get over him as he did if that was the case. There was room for Bjerre to have taken a tighter inside line, likewise Lindgren could have gone wider. Shutting the door into corners is part and parcel of racing at the highest level, especially in GP's, if you are making a move up the inside you better make sure you've got a clean run as the referees do exclude the one on the inside the majority of the time. Not always correctly I might add. Yet another case where the rules are wrong. A racing indecent so the fairest way is to have both riders back in a re-run. A rule change is a cop out for a ref but there are so many incidents that it's almost impossible to say rider A or B was in the wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace no.5 169 Posted September 30, 2017 https://twitter.com/kenneth_bjerre/status/914091321954045952 Here's the incident. Still say it's a 50/50 call, For those saying Bjerre was ahead, impossible for Lindgren to get over him as he did if that was the case. There was room for Bjerre to have taken a tighter inside line, likewise Lindgren could have gone wider. Shutting the door into corners is part and parcel of racing at the highest level, especially in GP's, if you are making a move up the inside you better make sure you've got a clean run as the referees do exclude the one on the inside the majority of the time. Not always correctly I might add. Bjerre was ahead on the back straight but Lindgren got the drop in to the turn. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,363 Posted September 30, 2017 racing incident for me ,see it every GP.Bjerre never got to the corner in front. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hodgy 976 Posted September 30, 2017 Looked like Lindgren leant over Bjerre a fraction too early to me and caused the crash. Hope Lindgren is ok and fit for the final. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil The Ace 2,860 Posted September 30, 2017 Lindgren was about to 360 it before bjerre hit him. Bjerre was ahead entering bend 3 but lindgren was on fast outside and got drop on him but dropped it a little to much meaning he lost his back wheel. As u can see luckily bjerre sees it and shuts off to avoid hitting Freddie at full speed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheReturn 1,724 Posted September 30, 2017 https://twitter.com/kenneth_bjerre/status/914091321954045952 Here's the incident. Still say it's a 50/50 call, For those saying Bjerre was ahead, impossible for Lindgren to get over him as he did if that was the case. There was room for Bjerre to have taken a tighter inside line, likewise Lindgren could have gone wider. Looking at that, clearly a 50/50 racing incident. If pushed I would have excluded Lindgren for leaning into Bjerre. But clearly no dirty riding by either, no intent by either. Just sad Freddie is injured. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedcrazy 58 Posted September 30, 2017 Its a good job the track is so safe, people are saying its the worst crash they have ever seen yet Lindgren, Bjerre & Cook all walked away. On another track the injuries would have been so much more severe as they avoided hard impact with fence as the track is so wide. "'Possible"" broken vertebrae in his neck .. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob B 1,257 Posted September 30, 2017 Lindgren leaned into Bjerre as Lindgren was locking up. Bjerre did nothing wrong, he didnt change his line, they were side by side (Bjerre was in front just going into bend before they touched). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted September 30, 2017 Bjerre was ahead on the back straight but Lindgren got the drop in to the turn. Exactly. Racing incident, call could have gone either way. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B.V 72 1,054 Posted September 30, 2017 We all still see it differently I see Lindgren lean right over bjerre and then locks up a little giving Bjerre no choice but to clash with him.You can see bjerre react to this just before they clash. Not being biased the meetings over just saying what I see. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted September 30, 2017 Exactly. Racing incident, call could have gone either way. Yep. I'd say Lindgren should have gone but it's not clear cut.Bewley could have been excluded in the first leg when he locked up and Greaves went into him. And Tungate was possibly unlucky to be excluded in heat 14 first leg. Two 50/50 calls going wolves way, one going the Aces. Enough to swing the tie with only 1 point in it, but end of the day wolves scored the extra point and deserve to be in the final. Hope Freddie ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gr8scot 589 Posted September 30, 2017 (edited) IMO - 100% Lindgren. Looked like he leant over way too far and lost control of the bike - then the bikes contacted sending Freddie off accross the corner at which point Kenneth kinda laid it down. Cookie was lucky not to be collected too. 100% racing incident Best wishes to Freddie for a full & speedy recovery Edited September 30, 2017 by Gr8scot 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites